Yeah definitely, you'd only need to figure out/design the mounting solution for the motors on your r
Yeah definitely, you'd only need to figure out/design the mounting solution for the motors on your rig.
NOh man do it, flying the spit with the Rhino is incredible!
LKeeping the Spit roll axis pivot point as it is in the video would be an interesting design challenge. Knowing the amount of talent we have in this community: possible, probably. If all you want to keep is the cool Spitfire grip though, then it'd be much easier. Custom grips have been used with Rhino already.
MIt won't be as clean looking, or will require a very long belt, but he should be able to just tie a motor in the same way that the current axis is. Just remove the sensor, chain, springs, and add an appropriate gear.
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MThanks for the useful infos! For me, the roll axis pivot point is a must have because it adds more to the immersion then the ffb in my point of view. But i can see the challenge which comes with it too. I think I'll try it next year as a new project 
MIt’s easier to do that than jumping through the hoops or making the compromises necessary to make pitch and roll share the same geometric plane
RA fedex elf just arrived with a package from Saint Walmis. Must not stay up all night setting it up. Must not.... 
NMy favorite part of this discord is new owners
Ajust glue some suction cups into it and mount it on your desk
HI put mine on a box next to my chair, because holy moley it's big. Think I'm going to have to get in the metal shop and make a new pit
HActually, I put it on the shipping box. Full service product.
Eso the motors work by pully belts? orr?
MIs there a kit including cables, power supply, fans and gears too? Or at least a recommended parts list? Or would you recommend buing the rhino base and disassemble it for my project?
GThe kits come with motors and control board. Any other accessories you have to obtain on your own.
GThe board has features and connections for extras though.
GThe Showcase channel has pinned comments showing some good options to start with, including a community sourced build of all the parts needed to be built and printed
SWould be cool to have a kit with every component in it and a video tutorial how to assemble it ... Would save on some buildtime for walmis and his colleagues
GThat would probably have to be community created. He doesn't build the kits
JI think next thing we might see from walmis new product wise will either be an adapter for VKB gunfighter MKIV or much later on a possible FFB kit for MFG Crosswind pedals
Adibs on the pedals
Jyeah i definitely wanna get my order in on those asap once they become available
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ROh man, a possible FFB kit for my MFG crosswinds? If that ever happens that's an instant buy.
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JBut behind me
RWell I just spent my first two hours flying and tweaking with the Rhino in MSFS. This is absolutely the BEST controller I have ever encountered, to the point that everything else I've used is just an "also ran" now. I liked my winwing orion 2 (especially after warthog stiction hell) but it can't even begin to compare to this. That one's just a very expensive paper weight now. I love the Rhino's software as well. I flew an RV7 for several years, and it's absolutely possible to recreate the stick forces of that plane exactly with the Rhino. Just brilliant work @walmis, truly. Thank you for creating such a masterpiece.
LQuestion to all the people with FFB-Rudder, do you have software for FFB effects or how do you drive them?
NI just run a 2nd instance of TelemFFB to talk to mine. They can produce the same haptic effects that the Rhino does (at least where the X axis is involved). (I also run a 3rd instance for my collective)
In general, there's not a whole lot of pedal specific effects that could be created. The two primary ones being dynamic forces and of course, trim. Nosewheel shimmy is another. I have added both dynamic forces and shimmy to TelemFFB for MSFS. Trim is a bit more of a problem.
DCS, unfortunately, doesn't support any of these. It's FFB is limited to X/Y joystick axis. What's worse is that it will send ALL FFB events to EVERY FFB device it is talking to. This isn't usually a problem since you will get the native effects like buffeting, but it also means that the native trim movement of the control stick will be mirrored on the pedals (a bigger problem for helicopter force trim).
The next Rhino firmware should make it possible to override some of what DCS does in that regard.
Today, I switch between two VPforce Configurator profiles (no spring for Heli's, sticky spring for FW)
In general, there's not a whole lot of pedal specific effects that could be created. The two primary ones being dynamic forces and of course, trim. Nosewheel shimmy is another. I have added both dynamic forces and shimmy to TelemFFB for MSFS. Trim is a bit more of a problem.
DCS, unfortunately, doesn't support any of these. It's FFB is limited to X/Y joystick axis. What's worse is that it will send ALL FFB events to EVERY FFB device it is talking to. This isn't usually a problem since you will get the native effects like buffeting, but it also means that the native trim movement of the control stick will be mirrored on the pedals (a bigger problem for helicopter force trim).
The next Rhino firmware should make it possible to override some of what DCS does in that regard.
Today, I switch between two VPforce Configurator profiles (no spring for Heli's, sticky spring for FW)
JOrdered what is hopefully the last bits to get my setup up and running!
MThat's unfortunate to hear about DCS regarding FFB pedals. Was hoping to modify mine in to an FFB setup one day. Having some vibration at high AoA, during taxi, etc would be pretty cool. Maybe someone smarter than I will find a way to pull the telemetry to code it (a la SimShaker) one day.
NWith TelemFFB you do get all the effects. You’ll also get the shaker style effects that are native to DCS (mostly AoA buffeting). The place where DCS fails is with actual axis feedback (like dynamic forces and trim)
NI’m hopeful with the next VPforce firmware we can override what DCS is doing and do our own thing for the pedals.
ADoesn’t the Apache have ffb settings for rudder in special settings?
NSome a/c do have rudder trimmer specific settings, but I’ve never been able to get them to work. Perhaps because the only axis options on the VPforce board are X/Y (so pedals motor inputs are connected to X). Maybe DCS is looking for Z or something else for the pedals in those instances where a module implements something.
NMaybe someone with retail pedals (if the axis is reported to windows as something other than X/Y) can chime in.
AAh, I see
MWindows reports Rot Z as my pedal axis
MX/Y on my pedals (MFG) are the toe brakes in windows
Nmy virpils do the same (for the yaw axis).. the (possible) problem is that you don't bind the original axis any longer after bolting on a motor. You bind the axis from the VPForce board, which is X axis.
WI'll try to add a FFB Z axis for science, but somehow doubt DCS has this implemented properly
NI would agree, but it does beg the question as to why some modules (like Apache and MI-24) have pedal trimmer settings.
NIf you do (and it's not double the effort), a Rot-Y could be helpful in the future, too (collective).
SWell from my experience flying the Z axis with Hydraulics, the only thing you should need is a centering force. And I some times have trouble to know if the crosswind R P are centered or not with Vr. You could have effects in the rudder but at least for a civ running on hyd not so real. On normal speeds. Near stall could be different for small aircraft.
SThe collective only need to have ffb just to simulate the proper weight of it right?
Nno.. that is taken care of by being counter-balanced and dampening/friction in VPConf. There realistically is almost zero need for actual axis based FFB for a collective, but it might be cool in the future to be able to simulate autopilot movement and/or friction locking with enough creative development in TelemFFB. Maybe hydraulic loss or other failure conditions too.. I'm not sure.. I've never flown a real helicopter 