Do we have to make any code changes on our side to reference the cache? I enabled it and it looks to

Do we have to make any code changes on our side to reference the cache? I enabled it and it looks to work from what I see but it looks like my builds are the same or maybe a little slower

simpsonOP•9/9/23, 11:39 AM

    
07:32:28.237    Success: Finished cloning repository files
07:32:29.372    Restoring from dependencies cache
07:32:29.401    Restoring from build_output cache
07:32:29.945    Successfully restored from dependencies cache
07:32:39.126    Successfully restored from build_output cache
07:32:39.664    Detected the following tools from environment: pnpm@8.6.6, nodejs@18.16.1
07:32:39.669    Installing project dependencies: pnpm install
07:32:41.489    Lockfile is up to date, resolution step is skipped
07:32:41.541    Progress: resolved 1, reused 0, downloaded 0, added 0
07:32:41.697    Packages: +615
07:32:41.698    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
07:32:42.223    Packages are hard linked from the content-addressable store to the virtual store.
07:32:42.223      Content-addressable store is at: /opt/buildhome/.local/share/pnpm/store/v3
07:32:42.223      Virtual store is at:             node_modules/.pnpm

    
07:32:28.237    Success: Finished cloning repository files
07:32:29.372    Restoring from dependencies cache
07:32:29.401    Restoring from build_output cache
07:32:29.945    Successfully restored from dependencies cache
07:32:39.126    Successfully restored from build_output cache
07:32:39.664    Detected the following tools from environment: pnpm@8.6.6, nodejs@18.16.1
07:32:39.669    Installing project dependencies: pnpm install
07:32:41.489    Lockfile is up to date, resolution step is skipped
07:32:41.541    Progress: resolved 1, reused 0, downloaded 0, added 0
07:32:41.697    Packages: +615
07:32:41.698    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
07:32:42.223    Packages are hard linked from the content-addressable store to the virtual store.
07:32:42.223      Content-addressable store is at: /opt/buildhome/.local/share/pnpm/store/v3
07:32:42.223      Virtual store is at:             node_modules/.pnpm

Ssimpson Do we have to make any code changes on our side to reference the cache? I enable...

itsmatteomanf•9/9/23, 12:46 PM

Nope, no code changes... the cache takes some time, so for very fast installs it won't change much, unfortunately.

simpsonOP•9/9/23, 12:46 PM

No worries! Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing anything

Ssimpson Do we have to make any code changes on our side to reference the cache? I enable...

Jacob•9/11/23, 12:34 PM

Can you send me the deployment ID? I'd like to take a look - our goal is to make sure that at the very least, it doesn't slow down builds

JJacob Can you send me the deployment ID? I'd like to take a look - our goal is to make...

simpsonOP•9/11/23, 6:47 PM

i'll try to grab it later, to be fair it was only like 10 seconds longer

josh•9/14/23, 11:01 PM

@Jacob any plans to support caching bundler/rubygems for Ruby builds in the future?

Jjosh <@85379843826413568> any plans to support caching bundler/rubygems for Ruby buil...

Jacob•9/14/23, 11:23 PM

Deff want to add support for more languages in the future, yes

How much time does your project take cached vs non-cached? (eg. when rebuilding locally)

JJacob Deff want to add support for more languages in the future, yes 🙂 How much time ...

josh•9/14/23, 11:40 PM

latest build is 2m 26s uncached at Cloudflare, 49s cached at Netlify

josh•9/14/23, 11:41 PM

this is a middleman site (quite similar to jekyll, should use the same ruby/node caching approach)

Jacob•9/15/23, 12:25 AM

Thanks!

itsmatteomanf•9/19/23, 12:12 PM

@Jacob did you think about the build cache not being invalidated on dependecy updates?

Iitsmatteomanf <@85379843826413568> did you think about the build cache not being invalidated o...

Jacob•9/20/23, 4:50 AM

A bit but nothing planned yet. This first iteration is intended to be very safe for most projects, at the cost of a few more cache misses. How often do you change your dependencies?

Jacob•9/20/23, 4:52 AM

What would you prefer as the cache key?

JJacob A bit but nothing planned yet. This first iteration is intended to be very safe ...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:43 AM

It’s not the changing of dependencies (it happens often now as I am building the website, but will most likely lower), but the updates. Astro releases an update a week, add other packages and it’s very often.

JJacob What would you prefer as the cache key?

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:45 AM

Do we need a cache key for the output cache? I get dependencies, might make sense, although I am not sure what Netlify does, for example… but the cache output is handled by each package.

Iitsmatteomanf Do we need a cache key for the output cache? I get dependencies, might make sens...

Jacob•9/20/23, 1:52 PM

What if you have a different branch with vastly different settings? Maybe we could use the branch as a cache key instead? What if you change frameworks? (I guess we could rely on you hitting the Clear Cache button for that?)

Jacob•9/20/23, 1:56 PM

We were trying to avoid users having to hit Clear Cache and having things just work.

Jacob•9/20/23, 1:56 PM

But we weren't thinking about users updating deps every week

JJacob What if you have a different branch with vastly different settings? Maybe we cou...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:17 PM

Oh, yeah. Branches for sure, I wasn’t gonna even mention that.

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:18 PM

Most frameworks tend to have their own cache folder, so it wouldn’t be a big issue…

Iitsmatteomanf Most frameworks tend to have their own cache folder, so it wouldn’t be a big iss...

Jacob•9/20/23, 3:24 PM

I wonder what would be a good way to surface that "hey you should probably clear your cache once in a while if you make big changes." Like I'd hate to be downloading/uploading 300MB of extra junk that's no longer used on every build

JJacob I wonder what would be a good way to surface that "hey you should probably clear...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:25 PM

Maybe some sort of diff in the package.json? If it changes too much give a nudge? I don’t know…

Jacob•9/20/23, 3:27 PM

I want to add more config later - cache keys will probably be part of that. The current "play it super safe" approach will unfortunately come with some increased cache misses

Jacob•9/20/23, 3:27 PM

The hope is that it will still save users some build time if they build a lot. We can improve more edge cases in the future

JJacob The hope is that it will still save users some build time if they build a lot. W...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:25 PM

Jacob•9/26/23, 8:40 PM

Heya! We released a few bug fixes & performance improvements. lmk if y'all see any issues!

JJacob Heya! We released a few bug fixes & performance improvements. lmk if y'all see a...

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:19 PM

Hi Jacob! Does this work with

next-on-pages

next-on-pages

PPlaidShaman Hi Jacob! Does this work with `next-on-pages`?

Jacob•9/26/23, 10:25 PM

Yes! Next is supported

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:26 PM

Amazing

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:27 PM

I’d love to sign up for the beta. I looked at the stickied pins, but didn’t see anything to point me in the right direction.

Is there another place I could look?

PPlaidShaman I’d love to sign up for the beta. I looked at the stickied pins, but didn’t see ...

Jacob•9/26/23, 10:28 PM

Just pinned the message that has the form

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:28 PM

Samaritan•9/27/23, 2:44 AM

Super keen to be involved, have just filled in the form

bigansh•9/27/23, 7:40 AM

how can i get started with build caching?

Bbigansh how can i get started with build caching?

Cyb3r-Jak3•9/27/23, 11:44 AM

Can fill out the form on build-caching-beta

CCyb3r-Jak3 Can fill out the form on https://discord.com/channels/595317990191398933/1144554...

bigansh•9/27/23, 12:26 PM

done

Jacob•9/27/23, 6:06 PM

Heya! Y'all should have access to it now

You can enable it in project settings -> Builds & deployments -> Build caching

JJacob Heya! Y'all should have access to it now 🙂 You can enable it in project setting...

bigansh•9/27/23, 8:29 PM

awesome. thank you

Jacob•9/28/23, 1:24 PM

It's live! https://blog.cloudflare.com/race-ahead-with-build-caching/

The Cloudflare Blog

Race ahead with Cloudflare Pages build caching

Unleash the fast & furious in your builds with Cloudflare Pages' build caching. Build cache is a feature designed to reduce your build times by caching and reusing previously computed project components. Now in Beta for select frameworks and package managers.

Vero•9/28/23, 1:45 PM

^ @945732495889014814

VVero ^ <@&945732495889014814>

Luke•9/28/23, 1:47 PM

Join us on our Discord Server [link]

The blog post needs updating with the link

LLuke > Join us on our Discord Server [link] The blog post needs updating with the lin...

Vero•9/28/23, 1:47 PM

thanks, raising

GGlare Is Nuxt already included or is that in the "to come"?

Cyb3r-Jak3•9/28/23, 1:47 PM

Only lists nextjs, gatsby and Astro to start.

Jacob•9/28/23, 3:12 PM

We also cache dependencies for Yarn 1, npm, pnpm, and bun!

JJacob It's live! https://blog.cloudflare.com/race-ahead-with-build-caching/

Avi•9/29/23, 4:50 AM

hi, i'm not seeing where it's possible to enable this...

Avi•9/29/23, 4:51 AM

worth noting that, because we need to integrate our pages deployments into our CI process, we deploy to pages manually via

wrangler

wrangler

Avi•9/29/23, 4:52 AM

i didn't see anything in the announcement about this being unavailable for that setup

AAvi worth noting that, because we need to integrate our pages deployments into our C...

Hello, I’m Allie!•9/29/23, 6:57 AM

Build caching only applies when using Pages Builds

07:32:28.237 Success: Finished cloning repository files 07:32:29.372 Restoring from dependencies cache 07:32:29.401 Restoring from build_output cache 07:32:29.945 Successfully restored from dependencies cache 07:32:39.126 Successfully restored from build_output cache 07:32:39.664 Detected the following tools from environment: pnpm@8.6.6, nodejs@18.16.1 07:32:39.669 Installing project dependencies: pnpm install 07:32:41.489 Lockfile is up to date, resolution step is skipped 07:32:41.541 Progress: resolved 1, reused 0, downloaded 0, added 0 07:32:41.697 Packages: +615 07:32:41.698 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 07:32:42.223 Packages are hard linked from the content-addressable store to the virtual store. 07:32:42.223 Content-addressable store is at: /opt/buildhome/.local/share/pnpm/store/v3 07:32:42.223 Virtual store is at: node_modules/.pnpm

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