without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to base, when I touch the

without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to base, when I touch the grip male end going into adapter female end it will play up, as for the violent shaking with a button press I'm not sure what that is

PPiNKSH!T without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to bas...

walmis•10/8/23, 6:19 AM

That's not related to the buttons

walmis•10/8/23, 6:19 AM

Can you show me your settings?

Wwalmis Can you show me your settings?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:20 AM

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:21 AM

these were with my vkb mcgu grip & adapter

walmis•10/8/23, 6:23 AM

Try these settings:

Wwalmis Try these settings:

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:25 AM

it goes crazy again straight away even with those settings

walmis•10/8/23, 6:26 AM

Try spring @2Hz

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

those blue bars change when the wire to adapter is touched/moved which stops the input from showing

Wwalmis Try spring @2Hz

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

spring force lpf?

PPiNKSH!T spring force lpf?

walmis•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

Yeah

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:28 AM

nope it goes crazy again

walmis•10/8/23, 6:29 AM

Reduce the spring strength using the knob, when there is no weight attached it becomes unstable with a high gain

walmis•10/8/23, 6:30 AM

once you have everything mounted you can tune it back up

Wwalmis Reduce the spring strength using the knob, when there is no weight attached it b...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:30 AM

oh ok, just testing my vkb grip

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:31 AM

vkb mcgu & 200mm extension everything stable, as you say no weight is making it unstable

Wwalmis once you have everything mounted you can tune it back up

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:48 AM

would it be ok to put hot glue on the adapter where the ww grip male end goes in? this bit is very finicky, when I just had the wire from grip the button inputs were good, now again with the extension installed it must be interfereing with the connection to the adapter

walmis•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

Do you use a WW extension or a Virpil?

Wwalmis Do you use a WW extension or a Virpil?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

can I just trim the wire from extension?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

it's when it bunches up in the grip that it stops working, is it just normal wires inside?

walmis•10/8/23, 6:52 AM

yeah, actually 3 wires are only used

Wwalmis yeah, actually 3 wires are only used

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:55 AM

I think I'll just do this tomorrow when I can get some heat shrink for it

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:55 AM

cheers for your help m8

Fer•10/8/23, 7:19 PM

Hello after plugging a new control to my pc with DCS open my rhino loose it’s ffb capability just works as a regular joystick, and I have to restart DCS to get back the ffb, any idea what this happens or how to solve it ?

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 12:48 AM

It could be the USB hub?

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 12:48 AM

Might drop power to the RHINO?

Fer•10/9/23, 3:23 AM

Don’t know maybe has something to do with windows because in my other pc it doesn’t have that behavior

FFer Don’t know maybe has something to do with windows because in my other pc it does...

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 4:27 AM

With the same USB hub?

Fer•10/9/23, 5:54 AM

Yep

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 10:59 AM

How do I calibrate with a physical endstop? do I uncheck software endstop to start I guess? then what about calibration without the stick ending up off set to the front?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:15 AM

I'm also getting instability when using the default profile & endstops, moving side to aide x axis

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:20 AM

@walmis sorry to @ you again, but can you help with telling me how to calibrate with the physical endstop? cheers m8

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:21 AM

I can calibrate it obviously but it's not ending up 'off set' for the limiter

PPiNKSH!T @walmis sorry to @ you again, but can you help with telling me how to calibrate ...

walmis•10/9/23, 11:21 AM

Yeah, disable endstops and axis scaling and calibrate the using the auto calibrate tool

Wwalmis Yeah, disable endstops and axis scaling and calibrate the using the auto calibra...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:23 AM

& this will have the stick end up "off set" for the limiter? ie. Y axis 35%+ 50%-?

walmis•10/9/23, 11:27 AM

You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values.
Calibrate as you would always do, then increase the calibrated

Y max

Y max

value so the stick roughly centers, then enable

axis scaling

axis scaling

, leave all axis at 100%, but reduce Y fwd % so it matches full logical travel when it reaches the endstop.

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:28 AM

can you tell me what in my setting would be giving me instability when moving along the axis?

walmis•10/9/23, 11:28 AM

Try maybe damper LPF at 4-6Hz

walmis•10/9/23, 11:29 AM

Inertia and frinction also reduce stability

Wwalmis Try maybe damper LPF at 4-6Hz

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:29 AM

Y axis is good with 5.0Hz but can still feel slight bit on X axis??

walmis•10/9/23, 11:30 AM

does it vibrate ?

Wwalmis does it vibrate ?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:31 AM

yeah that's what I meant by "instability" sorry, it vibrated violently then motor safety kicked in. Now with the 5.0Hz & I dropped Inertia & dampner by 5% each I still feel very slight vibration in x axis, like it may go in game

walmis•10/9/23, 11:32 AM

Try 4Hz damper

Wwalmis Try 4Hz damper

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:34 AM

ok thanks that got it! Now I just need to try get the calibration/axis scaling done right

. Thanks so much for your help Walmis it's very much appreciated m8

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:35 AM

oh also are you considering making new vkb adapters for the new attachment they have? sick of how mine always end up loose, I want to change the parts over soon

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:45 AM

omg why does it feel like I'm doing what you described but I'm just not getting the desired outcome

Wwalmis You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values. Calibra...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 12:05 PM

hey m8 I'm sorry to keep bothering you, I calibrated as normal then I had to lower not increase the Y max value to move the stick forward to around the center, then I put axis scaling at 65% forward & leave the rear Y @100%. When it comes to the X axis the physical limiter is at 50% do I need to adjust the X max value or just use the axis scaling to limit the X +/- axis?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 12:13 PM

testing this seems to be getting my heat up to 50°c & the fans going, I've never really had this before

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 12:18 PM

seems like pulling back on Y axis is getting the temp up, I had these same setting previously with the software endstops & I never really had the fans kick in during use, maybe it's just cause I'm testing it & not using it 'normally'. I'll see how it is in game, if I make it

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 12:22 PM

continued 'testing' with the Y axis looks like the last ~3% or so of the axis is not registered I mean the last 'little bit' I pull back on the stick isn't registering on the axis as it's already registering full deflection

without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to base, when I touch the

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