You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values. Calibrate as you would alwa

You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values.
Calibrate as you would always do, then increase the calibrated

Y max

Y max

value so the stick roughly centers, then enable

axis scaling

axis scaling

, leave all axis at 100%, but reduce Y fwd % so it matches full logical travel when it reaches the endstop.

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:28 AM

can you tell me what in my setting would be giving me instability when moving along the axis?

walmisOP•10/9/23, 11:28 AM

Try maybe damper LPF at 4-6Hz

walmisOP•10/9/23, 11:29 AM

Inertia and frinction also reduce stability

Wwalmis Try maybe damper LPF at 4-6Hz

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:29 AM

Y axis is good with 5.0Hz but can still feel slight bit on X axis??

walmisOP•10/9/23, 11:30 AM

does it vibrate ?

Wwalmis does it vibrate ?

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:31 AM

yeah that's what I meant by "instability" sorry, it vibrated violently then motor safety kicked in. Now with the 5.0Hz & I dropped Inertia & dampner by 5% each I still feel very slight vibration in x axis, like it may go in game

walmisOP•10/9/23, 11:32 AM

Try 4Hz damper

Wwalmis Try 4Hz damper

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:34 AM

ok thanks that got it! Now I just need to try get the calibration/axis scaling done right

. Thanks so much for your help Walmis it's very much appreciated m8

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:35 AM

oh also are you considering making new vkb adapters for the new attachment they have? sick of how mine always end up loose, I want to change the parts over soon

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 11:45 AM

omg why does it feel like I'm doing what you described but I'm just not getting the desired outcome

Wwalmis You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values. Calibra...

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:05 PM

hey m8 I'm sorry to keep bothering you, I calibrated as normal then I had to lower not increase the Y max value to move the stick forward to around the center, then I put axis scaling at 65% forward & leave the rear Y @100%. When it comes to the X axis the physical limiter is at 50% do I need to adjust the X max value or just use the axis scaling to limit the X +/- axis?

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:13 PM

testing this seems to be getting my heat up to 50°c & the fans going, I've never really had this before

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:18 PM

seems like pulling back on Y axis is getting the temp up, I had these same setting previously with the software endstops & I never really had the fans kick in during use, maybe it's just cause I'm testing it & not using it 'normally'. I'll see how it is in game, if I make it

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:22 PM

continued 'testing' with the Y axis looks like the last ~3% or so of the axis is not registered I mean the last 'little bit' I pull back on the stick isn't registering on the axis as it's already registering full deflection

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:26 PM

getting the slightest vibration if I go from holding X full deflection for a moment to the other side of the axis. I'm going to post pics of my settings (this is meant to be for a F-18c) can Walmis or anyone point out what settings might be giving me trouble. Also I think I got the calibration & axis scaling done right now though not 100% sure, the blue ball goes halfway across when on full deflection on both axis

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:27 PM

walmisOP•10/9/23, 12:37 PM

Recommend setting this, to compensate axis flex under force.

As for the axis scaling. Once you do the axis calibration you need to manually tweak the Y max, so that the stick is centered and not leaning back when neutral. This is because of asymmetric throw. Once you have that setup, enable axis scaling. I imagine it should be something like (in the pic).

Wwalmis Recommend setting this, to compensate axis flex under force. As for the axis sc...

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:48 PM

yep after I did the calibration I needed to reduce the Y Max number to move the stick forward to where the center would be my limiter is Y+ 35% Y-60% X+/-50%

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 12:52 PM

so this would be right for my axis scaling? it seems to be good except the x axis not quite registering full deflection & still getting the bit at the end of Y axis that isn't registering, I have checked the grub screws too

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 1:20 PM

@walmis sorry again m8 but I can't get this Y axis to register the last bit of movement rear, in the video when I have the blue ball all the way down you see the red arrow moving again, that is me pulling the last extent of the axis to full deflection, I have added the 190 & 100 Force comp & my settings are in the screen shots above, m8 sorry to bug you but I can't figure this out myself

PPiNKSH!T @walmis sorry again m8 but I can't get this Y axis to register the last bit of ...

walmisOP•10/9/23, 1:23 PM

Note the raw values, and adjust your calibration accordingly:

Wwalmis Note the raw values, and adjust your calibration accordingly:

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 1:24 PM

ok cheers, doing so now

walmisOP•10/9/23, 1:24 PM

From the video it looks like it reaches 3000, but your CAL is 2700

Wwalmis Note the raw values, and adjust your calibration accordingly:

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 1:26 PM

sorry so I understand, when do I take the numbers from the raw data? do I pull stick to max deflection & take that number to the Y Max?

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 1:38 PM

What if I remove the physical limiter, calibrate, install the limiter, change axis scaling to 50% +/- X axis & 35% + Y & 60% -Y????

PPiNKSH!T What if I remove the physical limiter, calibrate, install the limiter, change ax...

walmisOP•10/9/23, 1:42 PM

It might be simpler that way

walmisOP•10/9/23, 1:42 PM

Or you can check the numbers from another saved profile before the limiter

Wwalmis Or you can check the numbers from another saved profile before the limiter

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 1:43 PM

yep just thought of that, just loaded an old one

Wwalmis It might be simpler that way

PiNKSH!T•10/9/23, 2:08 PM

Ok that did it, just put limiter on then adjust axis scaling

mark turner•10/10/23, 8:39 AM

Hi, anyone here using a real simulator grip with the Rhino? I have some questions....

mark turner•10/10/23, 10:57 AM

I am using the grip as a standalone grip. I dont really need all the bells and whistles full functionality via the RS software and want to use it on the Rhino FFB base. I simply need the grip to function as a normal HID device via the rhino base.

On first try it seemed there was some issues with button numbers being double assigned and some not being picked up.

Whats the suggested best way to proceed setting it up given the useage scenario described above? I want to try and avoid all the Real Simulator bluetooth issues.....

mark turner•10/10/23, 10:57 AM

I have selected teh Real simulator 64 button option in the configurator

mark turner•10/10/23, 10:58 AM

Its the F18 grip incidentally, not the F16

Mmark turner Hi, anyone here using a real simulator grip with the Rhino? I have some question...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•10/10/23, 2:31 PM

@.mashed.potato. uses one. 📃general

Mmark turner Its the F18 grip incidentally, not the F16

MashedPotato•10/10/23, 4:43 PM

Walmis is troubleshooting this. Still not working right in the most recent firmware. I use Bluetooth for the grip in the meantime

PiNKSH!T•10/11/23, 5:43 AM

@walmis Hey m8, I've just shortened the ww extension cable & the connection to the female end of the adapter is still just too finicky, the slightest touch will stop the connection. I'm not sure what else I can do apart from hot glue but I doubt even that will fix the issue. Any help you can give me would be great

walmisOP•10/11/23, 5:57 AM

Probably the extension's male pins are slightly too short.
If you're not afraid of a bit of soldering you could push the adapter female pins in the adapter. I have a video on how to do it:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/um8ZC7NgLJRGkY5U7
Other way would be to modify/replace the male connector.

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