I've had a weird issue in the last couple of days. I have a VIRPIL TCS rotor base and hawk 60 grip,

I've had a weird issue in the last couple of days. I have a VIRPIL TCS rotor base and hawk 60 grip, A VIRPIL CM2 throttle, and verbal t50 CM2 grip attached to the rhino. Everything has been working okay for a couple of weeks. Now it has been 2 or 3 days that when I connect the rhino to the powered USB hub I use for all those peripherals, the VIRPIL collective disconnects for some reason. I have changed the powered USB hub with a new one but it still happens.
The hub is a USB 3.0 connected to a 3.2 USB port on the motherboard so it shouldn't be a USB bandwidth problem. Any idea what I could check to troubleshoot this?

MMr. S I've had a weird issue in the last couple of days. I have a VIRPIL TCS rotor bas...

ddrake1984•10/19/23, 7:12 AM

Disconnects and reconnects?

Dddrake1984 Disconnects and reconnects?

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 7:51 AM

the TCS rotor? no it just disappears. I get this behavior consistently from the TCS rotor, not so consistently (at least not that I'm aware of, or I didn't pay enough attention to that. More testing would be needed I guess) from the throttle...
I mean the TCS rotor disappears as long as the Rhino is plugged in. If I unplug the Rhino it comes back.

MMr. S the TCS rotor? no it just disappears. I get this behavior consistently from the ...

walmis•10/19/23, 8:32 AM

It disappears from game devices or from device manager ?

walmis•10/19/23, 8:33 AM

try the USB tree view program to debug USB issues: https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html

Wwalmis try the USB tree view program to debug USB issues: https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usb...

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 9:03 AM

Yeah I have monitored it with that, USBLogview and USBDeview... it disappears from both, device manager AND game devices

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 9:04 AM

no idea why. Maybe the collective is acting up IDK. I could see the current draw (from USBTreeview) is in line with the throttle (500ma) while the Rhino only draws 200ma (ofc, as that is powered by its brick...)

walmis•10/19/23, 9:10 AM

I'd try booting up Linux live USB such as Ubuntu and see in the kernel logs dmesgdmesg of any hardware weirdness.

Wwalmis I'd try booting up Linux live USB such as Ubuntu and see in the kernel logs `dme...

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 10:01 AM

hm. I can sure try and do that in time. If you have any other suggestion I'm open.

walmis•10/19/23, 10:21 AM

I assume you tried different motherboard USB sockets or plugging everything directly to the motherboard

Wwalmis I assume you tried different motherboard USB sockets or plugging everything dire...

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 4:11 PM

I did change to EVERY damn port on the M/B.

Turns out it was the USB hub power brick. It's powered by a USB-C so i was using a phone charger that happened to be JUST sufficient. It was flimsy enough that it would eventually give up and stop sending 5V reliably, causing the whole issue. A different power source seems to have solved all issues.
To restate: the Rhino was definitely NOT the cause.
Thanks for taking the time to interact, @walmis. 10/10 would buy a second Rhino. (it's a joke...)

Mr. SOP•10/19/23, 4:12 PM

I mean the buy part. I meant the 10/10

VVirus Yes it does

Virus•10/19/23, 5:10 PM

coult it be something in telem ffb?

VVirus coult it be something in telem ffb?

Number481•10/19/23, 5:11 PM

unlikely, TelemFFB only sends axis information to DCS in a couple very rare instances (trim following for the Harrier and one or 2 other modules).. but it would be pretty easy to find out

Virus•10/19/23, 5:12 PM

I don't understand what is happening....last time I tried the apache, it was working flawlessly

Virus•10/19/23, 5:12 PM

now I have this strange reset issue.

MMr. S I did change to EVERY damn port on the M/B. Turns out it was the USB hub power...

Hextopia•10/19/23, 5:34 PM

A good rule of thumb is to always ensure the power supply you grab out of the random electronics box in the closet meets or exceeds the wattage required by the thing you're about to plug it into to prevent problems.

I had a similar issue a while back with a wireless router acting strange and it wound up being an underpowered power supply

VVirus I don't understand what is happening....last time I tried the apache, it was wor...

Number481•10/19/23, 5:38 PM

without any real valuable advice to give.. I would say remove any mods you may have installed and do a slow DCS repair (if you've not already done that)

VVirus now I have this strange reset issue.

Hextopia•10/19/23, 6:56 PM

Did you try cleaning out your saved games folder yet?

Hextopia•10/19/23, 6:56 PM

The other good choice is the slow repair or a complete module reinstall

Virus•10/19/23, 7:35 PM

I just discoved that I have the same issue in every module with trim, so Fox example also mirage F1 and f14

Virus•10/19/23, 7:35 PM

Yes I did a slow repair

Virus•10/19/23, 7:36 PM

I tried to delete the files in input folder...still no joy

Virus•10/19/23, 7:36 PM

Now I deleted all the saved games folder

Virus•10/19/23, 7:36 PM

And checking again

Virus•10/19/23, 7:41 PM

Ok saved games destroyed...issue still there

Virus•10/19/23, 7:42 PM

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walmis•10/19/23, 7:42 PM

that's weird, can you make a video with the DCS input overlay showing?

Virus•10/19/23, 7:44 PM

I did...too big to put here

walmis•10/19/23, 7:46 PM

youtube private vid?

Virus•10/19/23, 7:50 PM

https://youtu.be/SNrVSWMHA-w?si=rVHfT-lg0SZ9cVPa

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Virus•10/19/23, 7:51 PM

This one is from the phone

Virus•10/19/23, 7:51 PM

I recorded also with obs directly in game

Virus•10/19/23, 7:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fEABgIyFI

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VVirus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fEABgIyFI

Virus•10/19/23, 7:54 PM

this one is uploaded from PC

walmis•10/19/23, 7:56 PM

Hmm, i'm not following. So you set the trim at the edge and it slowly returns to center by itself?

Virus•10/19/23, 7:58 PM

It is difficult to show

Virus•10/19/23, 7:59 PM

But the problem is that the physical stick is trimmed...as I touch it, the in game ones resets.

Virus•10/19/23, 8:00 PM

Look at the start of the video...I have the stick trimmed to the right....the in games one resets to center (without me pressing reset trim). But the physical one stays there

Virus•10/19/23, 8:01 PM

Also the in game one wobbles (like there was other conflicting inputs) but the physical stick doesn't move at all

Virus•10/19/23, 8:03 PM

Look at 00:23 the in game stick is centered. The physical one is trimmed to the left

Virus•10/19/23, 8:03 PM

And you can see also the wobble some seconds later

Virus•10/19/23, 8:07 PM

I got it

Virus•10/19/23, 8:07 PM

It's break out force setting in VPforce software

walmis•10/19/23, 8:07 PM

Ahh, yeah it's a bit broken atm

walmis•10/19/23, 8:08 PM

works only without trim

Virus•10/19/23, 8:09 PM

Yeah....my troubleshooting skills noticed that

Virus•10/19/23, 8:09 PM

I thought about it, because I noticed a small delay when moving the stick

peachmonkey•10/20/23, 3:39 PM

hi,@walmis, to add to issue @virusam is reporting:

vpforce hw trim gets reset on P47 / Mossie when the aircraft reaches around ~110-120mph airspeed on landing, essentially making landing on hw trim a pretty dangerous affair
I'm not sure if you're aware of this issue, or seen anyone reporting it..

Ppeachmonkey hi,@walmis, to add to issue @virusam is reporting: - vpforce hw trim gets reset ...

walmis•10/20/23, 3:50 PM

You mean hw trim with override?

I've had a weird issue in the last couple of days. I have a VIRPIL TCS rotor base and hawk 60 grip,

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