its kinda random, but happened on the ground. I took off and noticed I had no controls.... 😄
its kinda random, but happened on the ground. I took off and noticed I had no controls.... 
Nare you running ec8185c5 or dd8b0022 ?
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Sand I left off the trim follows and recent implementation to make sure.
SI think its something from VPForce config
Nunless the motors are going into fault state, I doubt its in vpconf. If its happening mid-flight and things are working fine up until then, it's not your config either.
Next time it happens. Grab the entire log from TelemFFB (log folder) and post it here or DM it to me
Next time it happens. Grab the entire log from TelemFFB (log folder) and post it here or DM it to me
Sill do
Sbut if thats the case, after TelemFFB "crashes" I still have all axis so proprably as you say not VPForce Conf fault(or mine, messing with it), but i'll do, thanks for your time wih it!
Sand patience
ADo the wires that come in the motor kits come with connectors on them already? Decent amount of slack?
WYou might need to splice and extend the wires as needed, so have a soldering iron and some heatshrink ready 
AIs motor 1 and 2 specific or roll? and pitch?
AOkay kinda confused, I had buttons working before I wrote the settings to the card. Now none of the buttons work from the joystick…double checked the wiring it’s all okay..not sure if the winwing adapter is good?
ASo I’ve tried re-wiring the pigtail for the sick just to make sure no breaks in solder. Changed the extension cord for the 5pin. Ran straight adapter to the base 5pin din. Swapped to my other winwing grip. Nada. No buttons register
WCan you check the debug output when generic grip (debug) is selected
ALots of FFs
AFor S&G I also pinned up a spare connector for 5pin and still nada. All FFs @walmis
WThe problem is on the 5 pin side
W
ABut does the problem lie in the adapter? The board?
APlugging this in gives me nothing
A
APinned off this
AOne sec let me repin this off your diagram and see what happens
WI doubt it's the adapter, unless it was badly pinned and damaged during powerup
A1st or 2nd
W2nd
AI’ll report back
Woh wait
AWaiting lol
Wyep 2nd
AThat’s how I already had it wired.
Wtry probing the adapter pins, disconnect the adapter cable - put a multimeter in diode test mode, put red probe on GND, and check all other pins with the black probe, it should read a diode (~0.6V) on all the pins
AI’ll have to do that at work tomorrow. I don’t have a meter at home.
ABut the freshly pinned one again going off the confirmed pin. Doesn’t work.
WThat's strange
AYep still all FF in debug mode
WYou don't have a TM/Virpil grip to try?
ANegative
AJust two winwing ones. One was brand new that I was using for this. It worked in the initial config thru chrome then when I loaded the VP software they were registering. I did the auto config ran the axis x and y. Saved and stored. And then nothing worked button wise
ADoesn’t matter what mode I put the software in for the button either. Nada
WYeah, would be best to probe the adapter for opens/shorts
AOkay I’ll do that in about 7 hours if you’re still around not entirely sure of the time difference
AMy buddy has a TM grip he’s gonna let me barrow to test also
AOne pin has .6v one pin has .4 and two are open. @walmis
WThat's not good, which pins are open?
ALatch and Data. VDD is .4v and Clock is .6v @walmis
AVerified a TM grip does in fact work
HHi Folks, just trying to get my head around some of the settings in the vpforce config. So do all of the sliders have an impact into the actual ffb effects encountered, not just on applications which dont use ffb? I ask as I am trying to set up the controls to be used in msfs and dcs and hopefully not have to touch it again. I have had my spring set at 50%, is that a reasonable setting to use? Or will that then reduce the effectiveness of somethings in telem? I have no extension on my stick, would appreciate some feedback on the settings.
JAlso depends on your "effects" tab settings... These "settings" tab settings are global settings. Additionally with the TelemFFB, there are config file setting that can be adjusted.