Think this could be quite easily detected during the Cloudflare setup - might be a nice UI improveme

Think this could be quite easily detected during the Cloudflare setup - might be a nice UI improvement. As it should not allow these addresses to be the same?

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:46 AM

OK I think I see what you mean

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:46 AM

And how woudl this work with internal emails, f.e. from server (wordpress) to receivers?

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:47 AM

They would use Cloudflare email servers - and I can still use the original email address for that

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:48 AM

The place where Email Routing is interesting, would be if you already got john.doe@example.comjohn.doe@example.com (and example.comexample.com) running on an expensive provider. However, in order to add your secondary @example.net@example.net as alias with them, your expensive provider charges $$$ to do that.

Here, you can add Cloudflare Email Routing, to handle @example.net@example.net, and then pass it's messages over to your already existing john.doe@example.comjohn.doe@example.com, at no extra cost.

WWuppie Think this could be quite easily detected during the Cloudflare setup - might be...

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:49 AM

I'd +1 on that one. With the custom address and destination being 100% identical, a warning could indeed be useful in the UI.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:49 AM

Regading e.g. the internal / server messages, it would depend on the set up there though.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:50 AM

Typically, and most simple, it would then be sending the messages as if it were records@internal.eaxmple.comrecords@internal.eaxmple.com.

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:50 AM

So it would need to be seperate domains, it cannot be simple the first part that is different?

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:50 AM

But it would (depending on what runs as the backend) be possible to do advanced routing rules there too, that would replace it with e.g. records@example.comrecords@example.com.

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:51 AM

I cannot setup in plesk info2@domain.com
and use cloudflare for info@domain. com and forward it to info2?

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:51 AM

I am assuming that would still loop - but i am not yet seeing it

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:51 AM

Nope, not if @domain.com@domain.com is the 100% same domain for both info@ and info@.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:52 AM

You have no ways of controlling (or guaranteeing) that the one goes to Cloudflare, and the other goes to your Plesk in that way.

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:52 AM

ah yes because that mailserver is DNS-configured

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:52 AM

I see I see..

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:53 AM

Think I am starting to understand- thanks so much DarkDevil

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:54 AM

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/routing-mail-to-own-server-with-same-name/483830

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/want-to-use-both-godaddy-and-cloudflare-forwording-email-service/522316

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/cloudflare-email-routing-exchange-online-custom-domain/530695

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:54 AM

Those threads (which I've been involved in

) explains something similar, especially the first goes in dept about the above "work around", with e.g. @internal.example.com@internal.example.com.

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:58 AM

I originally thought it would be a good idea- as using my internal mail server was exposing my IP address can throwing a warning in Cloudflre

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:58 AM

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 11:58 AM

Is https://community.cloudflare.com/t/rejected-reason-unknown/577851, which seem very similar, a thread that you created?

DDarkDeviL Is <https://community.cloudflare.com/t/rejected-reason-unknown/577851>, which se...

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 11:58 AM

Nop thats not me..

WWuppie I originally thought it would be a good idea- as using my internal mail server w...

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 12:00 PM

You would have to live with these non-Proxied warnings for any non-HTTP traffic, such as e.g. mail servers.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 12:02 PM

You can however take some security by obscurity way, and replace the "internal" part from the "@internal.example.com" example above could be some very long and random string.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 12:03 PM

A such approach would however (also) complicate your outbound stream from your Plesk, as it would somehow have to rewrite / remove it when sending messages out as well.

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 12:03 PM

I wouldn't play around with such stuff myself, and just live with the warning.

WuppieOP•11/8/23, 12:57 PM

Thank you once more DarkDevil, really appreciate all your input

WWuppie Thank you once more DarkDevil, really appreciate all your input

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 1:04 PM

You're welcome

DDarkDeviL Is <https://community.cloudflare.com/t/rejected-reason-unknown/577851>, which se...

DarkDeviL•11/8/23, 1:07 PM

@CFORED Seems like the mentioned thread is actually yours.

The above information / posts may therefore be useful to you.

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Chaika•11/10/23, 2:29 PM

you don't

Chaika•11/10/23, 2:31 PM

You set MX Records per hostname, either mail goes to Zoho, or Cloudflare for your root domain, not both. Some mail providers have full mail forwarding (not email forwarding) like gmail where they can forward mail onto a diff mailserver, but afaik zoho doesn't, and even if it does, it's a bit hacky.
You could be able to setup email routing on a subdomain

Chaika•11/10/23, 2:37 PM

hm the Settings Page says if the domain is disabled, subdomains won't work either
but I just tested it, and it's untrue, weird

OOversleep7682 Hi, can anyone please help me figure out which permissions I need for the email ...

Chaika•11/10/23, 4:26 PM

Zone => Zone Settings => Read

OOversleep7682 Thanks, do the docs mention permissions required for each endpoint ? I didn't se...

Chaika•11/10/23, 4:27 PM

The old api docs used to

Chaika•11/10/23, 4:30 PM

Yea for sure. Some aren't too hard to guess though, if there's no specific permission for it (like "Email Routing" exact), then I would assume it would fall under generic Zone Settings, not a great experience though

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:17 AM

hey, i'm not that good with all these settings. i can send emails using thunderbird but i cant receive any. if i try to send a mail it says the mail cannot be found or cannot receive emails at the moment. i dont know how to fix this, please help

SSelfieh hey, i'm not that good with all these settings. i can send emails using thunderb...

Hello, I’m Allie!•11/13/23, 8:20 AM

Email Routing doesn't allow you to send Emails(via SMTP), only receive them, if that is what you mean.

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:20 AM

yeah, sending is not a problem at all. i just cant receive them.

SSelfieh yeah, sending is not a problem at all. i just cant receive them.

Hello, I’m Allie!•11/13/23, 8:21 AM

Just to make sure, are you logged in to your third-party email provider?

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:22 AM

yes i am.

SSelfieh yes i am.

Hello, I’m Allie!•11/13/23, 8:22 AM

Do the emails appear in your WebMail?

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:23 AM

i dont have webmail sadly. i have a domain that came with an email.

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:24 AM

thats why i use thunderbird

Selfieh•11/13/23, 8:26 AM

i was receiving emails, but could not send them due to my DNS settings. i changed them and now i can send but cannot receive any.

Danny•11/13/23, 6:48 PM

Hi everyone! I'm trying to use the Brevo API to send an email when someone sends me one. I'm attempting to use their api, but when i do i get the error " Uncaught TypeError: superagent.agent is not a constructor"

Danny•11/13/23, 6:48 PM

I'll try just a normal fetch, but just reporting this here

Think this could be quite easily detected during the Cloudflare setup - might be a nice UI improveme

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