How well does it work as a "standard" stick, in games that don't support force feedback? How does it

How well does it work as a "standard" stick, in games that don't support force feedback? How does it compare to virpil or winwing bases when used in such a way?

VPforceBot•11/27/23, 1:03 PM

RHINO #0265 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/27/23, 1:03 PM

RHINO #0266 Has Shipped!

DDedlike (im trying to do something similar as in the F15 where forward travel is alot le...

MashedPotato•11/27/23, 2:27 PM

The easist way to do this (and the way I have it setup) is to put a 50%ish limit on forward travel of the stick, save that as a profile, and then use telemffb to load that profile when you're in the F-15E.

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JJehly Move?

A. Palmetto•11/27/23, 3:07 PM

Lemmmmmme hold a quick 100k to suffice a 3% down payment for any fixer upper where I live in commiefornia..

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原子力Hoshino•11/27/23, 4:49 PM

Hi guys..being out of the loop for quite a while...just wondering is there still any plan announced for natively supporting XP12? I saw TelemFFB supports MSFS but no mentioning of XP at all..
Thx!

FlatSpin•11/27/23, 5:21 PM

not that I'm aware of.

TTWP How well does it work as a "standard" stick, in games that don't support force f...

blave549•11/27/23, 7:36 PM

I've had the TMW, VPC CM2 and CM3 bases in the past. IMO the Rhino is the best-feeling base of all of them, even when not using FFB. And note that you can turn on "Hardware Force Trim" in the configurator app, which will let you use the trim hat to physically move the stick around. That has no reliance on any FFB telemetry; it's all done in the Magick Rhino Box

ionutned•11/27/23, 7:42 PM

did anyone ever get a virus warning for the telemffb executable?

Fierce_Fire•11/27/23, 7:43 PM

yes

ionutned•11/27/23, 7:45 PM

so, is it a virus attached?

Number481•11/27/23, 7:53 PM

its been discussed ad nauseum here on the discord. Windows defender has a hardon for anything compiled with pyinstaller since it is a common way people write malware and deliver it as exe's. In most cases when defender flags a build as malicious, simply changing one character in one line of code and re-compiling it makes it pass. Most people, including myself, simply add an exception to Defender for the folder where TelemFFB is installed.

ionutned•11/27/23, 7:54 PM

I didn't get it with defender, but ok, I'll add it to the exceptions

ionutned•11/27/23, 7:54 PM

thanks!

Iionutned so, is it a virus attached? 😃

Fierce_Fire•11/27/23, 8:23 PM

yes, I have sent walmis 9000 dollar cuz he held my pc hostage, but dont tell him that i said this

DDedlike (im trying to do something similar as in the F15 where forward travel is alot le...

mechsicko•11/27/23, 9:15 PM

You should be able to set center wherever you want and can also customize a restrictor plate to have hard stops at your preferred limits. It's not uncommon for aircraft have less travel forward than aft on sticks due to the panel/limits of human reach

VPforceBot•11/28/23, 3:47 PM

RHINO #0267 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/28/23, 3:47 PM

RHINO #0268 Has Shipped!

Wwalmis Once I'm able to get my hands on a Mk4 extension, I'll might be able to tell mor...

aniron•11/29/23, 8:56 AM

The EU site is usually a bit slower to pick up on new products as they rely on local stock mostly delivered by ship. The NA site has the grip conversion kits (replacement twist modules) for sale already but not the base conversion kit which would have the female part of the connector.

VPforceBot•11/29/23, 10:28 AM

RHINO #0270 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/29/23, 10:28 AM

RHINO #0269 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/29/23, 2:35 PM

RHINO #0271 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/29/23, 4:17 PM

RHINO #0272 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/29/23, 4:17 PM

RHINO #0273 Has Shipped!

Fr4Ged•11/29/23, 4:26 PM

wow...they are flying off the shelves now.

Pikas62•11/29/23, 4:42 PM

Five Rhinos shipped in one day!

Bob Bushman•11/29/23, 4:43 PM

I'm actually below a 12 month wait now, by about a day

Bob Bushman•11/29/23, 4:43 PM

(according to my spreadsheet which could be completely off the mark)

Pikas62•11/29/23, 4:46 PM

Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is *211 days

B34ker•11/29/23, 4:46 PM

Yeah, definitely gonna need to update my regression model with these new data points!

Pikas62•11/29/23, 4:47 PM

BBob Bushman I'm actually below a 12 month wait now, by about a day 😛

Fr4Ged•11/29/23, 4:55 PM

does your spreadsheet account for ~50% of people not ordering when they are able to?

Bob Bushman•11/29/23, 4:59 PM

I assume that average is on the units currently shipped and the time since pre-ordered, the length of that cue blew up as some word of mouth really got out in May and after.
I base myself on, granted, a rough and rapidly changing guess.
Based on how many units shipped since sometime in may and the amount of units left before me.
Even if I was going to hit the 210 mark, I am at day 188 now, production would have to increase with about 4 units a week.

Could it be done, maybe, but I'd rather see Walmis have work life balance.

FFr4Ged does your spreadsheet account for ~50% of people not ordering when they are able...

Bob Bushman•11/29/23, 5:01 PM

Ive moved up almost a hundred units, but it's been very stable since this summer so I guess those ahead of me are for now still in it for the long haul.
could that change, absolutely. When I update my sheet it would when it does happen

Fr4Ged•11/29/23, 5:03 PM

I see. the average is steadily but slowly rising.
sadge. I have 380 units before mine. next autumn would be cool.

Bob Bushman•11/29/23, 5:03 PM

Think my first estimates was early q1 2026 so it is at least shrinking

Toge•11/29/23, 6:49 PM

That's 3 more than yesterday. My regression model says that tomorrow 8 rhinos will be shipped, then 11 and so on. The queue should be clear in a few weeks. But I don't know what happens then, maybe walmis will start sending them to random people for free...

Fierce_Fire•11/29/23, 8:45 PM

It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when transitioning from hover to forward flight. Anybody have an idea wether this is intentional or no and how I could disable it?

FFierce_Fire It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when...

TrigaNZ•11/29/23, 9:12 PM

Aerodynamic effect called translation. Look it up, all whirly birds do it.

Icebeat•11/29/23, 9:45 PM

any configuration recommendation for the apache?

VPforceBot•11/30/23, 12:28 PM

RHINO #0274 Has Shipped!

FFierce_Fire It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when...

Number481•11/30/23, 12:39 PM

Yes, it is intentional as part of the "Effective Translational Lift" effect, as Kiwi said. If you want to adjust the intensity or onset characteristics, look at the following in the config for the Apache (or any other aircraft)

etl_start_speed = 6 # m/s
etl_stop_speed = 22 # m/s
etl_effect_intensity = 0.2 # [ 0.0 .. 1.0]

etl_start_speed = 6 # m/s
etl_stop_speed = 22 # m/s
etl_effect_intensity = 0.2 # [ 0.0 .. 1.0]

Note that all of the default effect settings are based on the Rhino with the periodic effects slider in VPf Configurator set at %50

Fierce_Fire•11/30/23, 1:11 PM

I see, thanks

VPforceBot•11/30/23, 1:18 PM

RHINO #0275 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/30/23, 1:43 PM

RHINO #0276 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/30/23, 2:34 PM

RHINO #0277 Has Shipped!

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 2:42 PM

My Rhino arrives today, I have a Virpil stick, is it just plug and play? Can I use extensions?

II/JG7_Moto My Rhino arrives today, I have a Virpil stick, is it just plug and play? Can I u...

walmis•11/30/23, 2:46 PM

Yeah, all Virpil stuff is plug and play

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 2:47 PM

Thanks, Do I need to setup anything in DCS? check a box or something?

walmis•11/30/23, 2:52 PM

Make sure the Force Feedback is checked in DCS misc settings

walmis•11/30/23, 2:52 PM

Other in depth stuff you can find in the manual
https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/VPforce_Rhino_Manual.pdf