It does not break if the caching is disabled.

kian•12/4/23, 2:15 PM

Probably hitting different colos caches.

kian•12/4/23, 2:15 PM

Look at the

age

age

response header.

Kkian Look at the `age` response header.

sultan.xhOP•12/4/23, 2:17 PM

sultan.xhOP•12/4/23, 2:18 PM

^ success laod

kian•12/4/23, 2:19 PM

DAC

DAC

is 6 different colos so 6 different caches you can hit, usually especially if you're doing a hard refresh or don't already have a connection open.

kian•12/4/23, 2:19 PM

The

Age

Age

header will vary between them.

sultan.xhOP•12/4/23, 2:26 PM

Okay, so what should I do now? I mean how can I fix this?

Ssultan.xh It does not break if the caching is disabled.

Chaika•12/4/23, 2:33 PM

If your origin is pages, disabling cache entirely isn't a bad idea, Pages already has its own layer of cache and adding extra can cause issues with assets not updating

Chaika•12/4/23, 2:34 PM

For now you could just purge your cache under Caching -> Config -> Purge Everything and see if that doesn't help

Ashley•12/4/23, 3:36 PM

If I'm deploying exclusively via Wrangler, is there a way to change the production branch? I know it's configured when I first create a project... but then in the UI, as I don't have it connected to GitHub, I can't see the option to change the production branch, unless I'm being really blind.

James•12/4/23, 7:40 PM

You can pass

--branch

--branch

with

wrangler pages deploy

wrangler pages deploy

, such as

wrangler pages deploy --branch=production

wrangler pages deploy --branch=production

- is that what you're looking for?

AAshley If I'm deploying exclusively via Wrangler, is there a way to change the producti...

James•12/4/23, 7:40 PM

Or perhaps changing the default production branch? You can do this in the UI: https://developers.cloudflare.com/pages/platform/branch-build-controls/#production-branch-control

JJames Or perhaps changing the default production branch? You can do this in the UI: ht...

Chaika•12/4/23, 7:44 PM

The silly thing is if it's a direct upload project you can't access that UI

Chaika•12/4/23, 7:44 PM

If you want to change it, you have to use the API
pages-discussions

James•12/4/23, 7:45 PM

Oh... wow. Good info, thanks @Chaika!

CChaika The silly thing is if it's a direct upload project you can't access that UI

Ashley•12/4/23, 8:02 PM

Yeah, this is what I meant

This seems mad to me that it’s not in the UI, hopefully on a backlog somewhere to be addresses - glad I wasn’t going mad, thank you!

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 9:58 PM

Is there any way to get past the cloudflare pages page/file limit? I just hit it today and I don't really have alternatives.

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simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 9:59 PM

I assume there is no paid option either.
Can you recommend any alternative other than netlify?

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simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:03 PM

Yeah neither of those are good for me unfortunately. It's a hugo based website.
What's the point of using any of these services if we can't use them for full fledged websites.
Oh well.
Thanks for the help @Unknown user

Ssimeononsecurity Yeah neither of those are good for me unfortunately. It's a hugo based website. ...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:04 PM

You could always build somewhere else then upload... is it ideal? No. Would it work? Yes.

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:04 PM

Would it be free? No.

Iitsmatteomanf Would it be free? No.

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:06 PM

I'm not concerned with the free part. I'd be willing to pay.
But it seems everywhere has either a build time limit, cpu compute limit, or page limit.
Free or Paid there is no way around it without somewhat significant development efforts if you even get it at all.
I'm currently using github actions to build my site and deploying to either netlify or cloudflare pages depending on the language.
Netlify is slow and takes like 20 minutes to upload the site to their cache Then they have the audacity to charge me for it. Meanwhile I can do the same in my testing env in les than a minute.
Cloudflare pages has a surprisingly low file limit.

Ssimeononsecurity I'm not concerned with the free part. I'd be willing to pay. But it seems everyw...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:07 PM

Yeah, that's how they get you to go higher in plans.
You can always build in GitHub Actions and then upload. It's not really that complex.

Iitsmatteomanf Yeah, that's how they get you to go higher in plans. You can always build in Git...

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:11 PM

I've less experience with workers than pages and netlify.
The automations aren't difficult. I'm already at least halfway there. I already use github actions to build the site.
But workers is significant for non developers. And just annoying due to arbitrary limits for files on pages for devs. Not to mention that it gets expensive because of request limits.
I'd have to set the worker redirects and headers up manually. At that point, I'd be better off using a traditional cpanel host.

Ssimeononsecurity I've less experience with workers than pages and netlify. The automations aren't...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:12 PM

They are different things, headers could work with some other Cloudflare tool, but fully agree there, not ideal. I'd love for that limit to be raised, but as far as I know is structural to how it's fetching assets, at the moment.

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:13 PM

Just out of curiosity, how are you generating 25k files?! Images? Actual pages?

Iitsmatteomanf Just out of curiosity, how are you generating 25k files?! Images? Actual pages?

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:15 PM

Hugo static site generator.
I have 700 articles, each with multiple images, every image has multiple optimized versions and sizes, every category and tag also produces another page as well, then include multiple json, xml, js, etc files and you hit the 25k limit really quickly.
I've been past it on my main website for some time I'm at more like 200k files now. I only use cloudflare pages now for some of the translations that have fewer pages and files. But I'm starting to reach the limit on those as well.

Ssimeononsecurity Hugo static site generator. I have 700 articles, each with multiple images, eve...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:16 PM

One idea would be moving images to Cloudflare Images, but also at that volume it'd be probably better to the SSR route...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:16 PM

How many of those pages are actually getting hit on average?

Iitsmatteomanf How many of those pages are actually getting hit on average?

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:18 PM

It's not like I run a crazy popular website.
But I'm not doing anything crazy either. I'm just implementing the best practices that everyone should be doing on their websites.
Cloudflare images is an insane cost and isn't worth it for any site IMO. It takes two seconds to convert it to better formats. And it's a repeated cost for something that is only needed to be done once per image.
Each of my articles average 50-100 views per month. So not crazy. But definitely not enough to justify incredible costs.

Ssimeononsecurity It's not like I run a crazy popular website. But I'm not doing anything crazy e...

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:19 PM

But also not too bad for numbers... Image prices isn't ideal.

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:19 PM

R2 wouldn't be too bad, in this case

itsmatteomanf•12/4/23, 10:20 PM

But headers and such is not the best.

simeononsecurity•12/4/23, 10:21 PM

Looks like I've got some reading to do.
But it's incredible.
Everyone recommends static site generators and to use netlify or pages or whatever. But they just don't scale at all and you have no options other than to just "get good" and spend money like it's going out of style.
I see why everyone eventually goes to self-hosted and/or on-prem. These solutions just don't scale.
Only recommend for simple and throwaway sites.

werwerwe.•12/5/23, 3:03 AM

anyone has tried to deploy pages with more than 20000 files, in my case not problem with images just too many posts for a massive web site, I asked for a increase in the limits but not sure how long it will take., I've read your comments @simeononsecurity what will you do? will switch to another platform.

Wwerwerwe.anyone has tried to deploy pages with more than 20000 files, in my case not prob...

Cyb3r-Jak3•12/5/23, 3:12 AM

?channel-crossposting

Flare•12/5/23, 3:12 AM

Please do not post your question in multiple channels per the rules at No Access. It creates confusion for people trying to help you and doesn't get your issue or question solved any faster.

Wwerwerwe.anyone has tried to deploy pages with more than 20000 files, in my case not prob...

simeononsecurity•12/5/23, 3:12 AM

I'm either switching fully to netlify and just have to eat the long deployment times and cost.
Or go to render.
I'm in talks with them now.

EErisa Going higher than this would require an Enterprise plan and all Enterprise prici...

ty•12/5/23, 7:15 AM

epic thanks

0xdhrv•12/5/23, 7:42 AM

With pages, if I upload static HTML, does each update to the HTML count as a build?

Ssimeononsecurity Hugo static site generator. I have 700 articles, each with multiple images, eve...

JustinNoel•12/5/23, 10:06 AM

Consider SSR? it's pretty easy with Hono. https://hono.dev

You could have your content in a CMS or KV or D1.

Hono is a small, simple, and ultrafast web framework for the Edges. It works on Cloudflare Workers, Fastly Compute, Deno, Bun, Vercel, Netlify, Lagon, AWS Lambda, Lambda@Edge, and Node.js. Fast, but not only fast.

00xdhrv With pages, if I upload static HTML, does each update to the HTML count as a bui...

수

수린 arodi007•12/5/23, 10:20 AM

i believe each time you hit the button/cmd deploy will count +1

Constantin•12/5/23, 4:15 PM

i'm trying to add a custom domain for pages. but the Name is missing for the form

CConstantin i'm trying to add a custom domain for pages. but the Name is missing for the for...

Chaika•12/5/23, 4:18 PM

Seems to think that domain is external/not in your CF account (or maybe just not active?)

Constantin•12/5/23, 4:19 PM

it's internal (managed in the same cf account where pages live)

Constantin•12/5/23, 4:20 PM

now A is pointing to a different ip however

Chaika•12/5/23, 4:20 PM

A while ago it used to get confused if it was in two accounts/you had just moved it

Chaika•12/5/23, 4:21 PM

oh is that just the screen you're looking at after you added it? opps

Chaika•12/5/23, 4:22 PM

Either you changed the CNAME it added for you, or it did just get confused. You could manually change the DNS Record, delete the current one and add CNAMECNAME @@ TargetTarget ProxiedProxied, or delete the current Custom domain and readd it and it should be able to change it for you

It does not break if the caching is disabled.

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