bazzite doesn't allow layering `etckeeper` because it pulls in the `dnf` package which conflicts wit

bazzite doesn't allow layering

etckeeper

etckeeper

because it pulls in the

dnf

dnf

package which conflicts with

/usr/bin/dnf

/usr/bin/dnf

. This doesn't happen in a Silverblue installation.

JilongOP•12/12/23, 3:54 AM

How do other bazzite users version control their

/etc

/etc

termdisc•12/12/23, 3:55 AM

we're supposed to version control it?

Daegalus•12/12/23, 4:01 AM

I don't think most of us do. I only manage my home directory and dev tools with home-manager/nix

EyeCantCU•12/12/23, 4:11 AM

No need to version control it

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:12 AM

i have wondered how it would be done, but i personally don't have a need. my edits in /etc are very minimal.

ChaiQi•12/12/23, 4:13 AM

Yeah I don't version control it, I have maybe one or two context specific files added and one fstab edit

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:15 AM

Well, I generally do it with

etckeeper

etckeeper

, but I can't layer it on bazzite.

JJilong Well, I generally do it with `etckeeper`, but I can't layer it on bazzite.

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:37 AM

i've just layered it without issues. no idea how to configure/test/use but it's on my system.

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:37 AM

Hmmm, I'm on bazzite-deck-gnome.

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:39 AM

i'm on

bazzite

bazzite

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:43 AM

cd /etc && sudo etckeeper init

cd /etc && sudo etckeeper init

sets up the repo. Then

sudo etckeeper commit "initial commit"

sudo etckeeper commit "initial commit"

checks your

/etc

/etc

into the repo.

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:44 AM

done, seemed to work fine.

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:46 AM

I like to version control it because

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

lets me go back in time, except for

/etc

/etc

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:46 AM

well, we've confirmed it can work. issue lies either in adding gnome, or something deck related.

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:47 AM

i have no clue of either since i do not use gnome, and have no reason to ever install a deck image

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:47 AM

time for some digging

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:47 AM

I'm checking the ublue repos on github to see if I can find where that script is coming from.

JJilong bazzite doesn't allow layering `etckeeper` because it pulls in the `dnf` package...

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:48 AM

after rereading this, dnf shouldn't even exist... it's an ostree system. there was no

/usr/bin/dnf

/usr/bin/dnf

prior to me installing

etckeeper

etckeeper

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:49 AM

There's a shell script on my system that just wraps

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 4:50 AM

weird. i would guess at it being some weird compatibility fix for something with gnome. (big stab in the dark)

JilongOP•12/12/23, 4:50 AM

I'll investigate tomorrow when I'm more awake. Still happy to have finally gotten it installed on working on my steam deck, so now it's just figuring out the little things to make using it in Desktop mode better for me.

ipwnmice•12/12/23, 4:56 AM

Is there somewhere I can easily follow the status of bazzite on steam deck oled? I'd like to install it when it's fully functional

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 5:00 AM

the

:testing

:testing

branch has many OLED fixes/changes

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 5:00 AM

there's no curated document or anything if that's what you were after.

ipwnmice•12/12/23, 5:03 AM

yeah I was looking for like a list of known oled specific issues

ipwnmice•12/12/23, 5:03 AM

guess I can check back in a month or so to see if stable branch is working well

matt_schwartz•12/12/23, 5:33 AM

Nobara and Bazzite have 100% OLED functionality. Nobara does for sure and the new fsync kernel today that will get put on :testing should have the last fix needed for Bazzite, related to refresh rate changes.

matt_schwartz•12/12/23, 5:35 AM

WiFi and Bluetooth got figured out a couple weeks ago while audio for Linux 6.6 finally got solved last week

Ppuella aeternis weird. i would guess at it being some weird compatibility fix for something with...

JilongOP•12/12/23, 7:02 AM

Digging through the ublue-os repos on GitHub, I found this: https://github.com/ublue-os/akmods/blob/main/build-prep.sh

I think the -deck images are built with

KERNEL_FLAVOR=fsync

KERNEL_FLAVOR=fsync

, which triggers running

rpm-ostree cliwrap ...

rpm-ostree cliwrap ...

which I think installs scripts in

/usr/bin/dnf

/usr/bin/dnf

and

/usr/bin/rpm

/usr/bin/rpm

GitHub

akmods/build-prep.sh at main · ublue-os/akmods

A caching layer for pre-built Fedora akmod RPMs. Contribute to ublue-os/akmods development by creating an account on GitHub.

JilongOP•12/12/23, 7:06 AM

I'm trying to understand why

rpm-ostree cliwrap

rpm-ostree cliwrap

needs to be called in that script.

JJilong Digging through the ublue-os repos on GitHub, I found this: https://github.com/u...

HikariKnight•12/12/23, 8:00 AM

the fsync kernel should only be in :testing atm i believe, since it will not work with secure boot, are you on

:testing

:testing

?
other than that i dont know anything else about it

JJilong I'm trying to understand why `rpm-ostree cliwrap` needs to be called in that scr...

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 8:15 AM

honeslt i think its just to work around lakc of user knowledge. i would just back it up in case something goes awry and remove it

JJilong I'm trying to understand why `rpm-ostree cliwrap` needs to be called in that scr...

Kyle Gospo•12/12/23, 8:15 AM

can't install a kernel w/ ostree without doing that

puella aeternis•12/12/23, 8:17 AM

instantly corrected lol

Kyle Gospo•12/12/23, 8:20 AM

https://tenor.com/view/masters-of-the-universe-skeletor-mot-u-gif-5430301619065962680

Tenor

EEyeCantCU Always wait the exclusives out myself

RodoMa92•12/12/23, 10:31 AM

It's published by Epic, not sure if it ever get published outside EGS.

RodoMa92•12/12/23, 10:31 AM

(I mean, if they want to get back the money spent on it probably yes /s)

cpuccino•12/12/23, 10:35 AM

Now that i finally have filled up my sd card with games ill never play, time to add productivity crap. What’s the best way to install ides? Jetbrains etc, heard there were a couple options layers, distrobox, etc - flatpak’s a no for jetbrains unfortunately (or it might be, havent tried out flatpak jetbrains in a while)

Ccpuccino Now that i finally have filled up my sd card with games ill never play, time to ...

HikariKnight•12/12/23, 10:44 AM

for any application the ideal order to try find applications would be

flatpak
your choice of appimage, distrobox, nix, brew, etc in the order you want/prefer
rpm-ostree (last resort as it will slow down your updates a lot)

HikariKnight•12/12/23, 10:46 AM

if you do have a dev environment you can replicate in a different distro, i would suggest making a development distrobox and contain the toolchain to that

cpuccino•12/12/23, 10:54 AM

Nice, thanks mate

HikariKnight•12/12/23, 11:03 AM

and if youre proficient with nix then use nix if you prefer that

HikariKnight•12/12/23, 11:04 AM

i personally prefer distrobox

Raltay•12/12/23, 11:22 AM

There is also Devbox which can create "isolated, reproducible development environments that run anywhere". It also uses Nix under the hood.
https://www.jetpack.io/devbox/

Devbox: Portable, Isolated Dev Environments

Devbox creates isolated, reproducible development environments that can run anywhere without Docker or virtual machines.

Keith( Beat Quest Games)•12/12/23, 2:07 PM

Any reason dual boot doesn't work out of the box if this uses the Fedora installer ?

KKyle Gospo can't install a kernel w/ ostree without doing that

JilongOP•12/12/23, 2:20 PM

Ah, it probably needs

/usr/bin/kernel-install

/usr/bin/kernel-install

which does several non-trivial actions in the cliwrapper script. I will just install

etckeeper

etckeeper

into

/usr/local

/usr/local

so that I can maintain my current workflow.

HHikariKnight the fsync kernel should only be in :testing atm i believe, since it will not wor...

JilongOP•12/12/23, 2:24 PM

Yes, I'm testing bazzite on a Steam Deck OLED, and that seems to be the only image+tag that allows a USB keyboard attached to the dock to work at boot (needed to enter password used for FDE).

Deleted User•12/12/23, 2:36 PM

Is there a way to disable the thing that asks for a password every time I open my browser? It's super annoying

KKeith( Beat Quest Games)Any reason dual boot doesn't work out of the box if this uses the Fedora install...

dreamyuki•12/12/23, 2:51 PM

if you want dual boot use separated disk

KKeith( Beat Quest Games)Any reason dual boot doesn't work out of the box if this uses the Fedora install...

ChaiQi•12/12/23, 3:09 PM

It does, the disclaimer that it's not officially supported means "do it at your own risk, back up everything on an airgapped drive first"

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