are you planning to build or buy? do you already have some hardware? Depending on needs there are

are you planning to build or buy? do you already have some hardware? Depending on needs there are a few different mini pc mfgs out there that make ryzen based systems if that route interests you, thats what I just picked up, one with a discreet AMD GPU, and im pretty happy with the purchase.

j0rge•1/4/24, 4:01 AM

@KyleGospo https://github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/issues/781

GitHub

Rework `just update` to be a flex move · Issue #781 · ublue-os/blue...

I realized why I don't like the echoless just update with ublue-update. I'm either in 2 modes when I'm using my computer. Automatic, or stick shift. Sometimes I just have to do it the o...

j0rge•1/4/24, 4:01 AM

this thing is so comprehensive and it's finding so much stuff on my system.

j0rge•1/4/24, 4:02 AM

This will become as clutch to us as justjust I think. It's so wobbly windows-like in it's awesomeness.

Iiamchocho are you planning to build or buy? do you already have some hardware? Depending...

vending_machine•1/4/24, 4:24 AM

Yea its for when I build a pc

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:05 AM

Is there any known cause or fix for the issue described here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/tt04l1/hows_software_still_having_issues_like_these/

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ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:06 AM

I don't remember having this issue on silverblue-nvidia, before switching to bazzite

CChaiQi Is there any known cause or fix for the issue described here? https://www.reddit...

fiftydinar•1/4/24, 8:33 AM

I delete gnome-software-rpm-ostree package as I dont need it for updates.
With flatpak only frontend, it works well in my experience.

fiftydinar•1/4/24, 8:34 AM

Yeah, I also disabled updates (they are disabled on Bazzite too)

Ffiftydinar I delete gnome-software-rpm-ostree package as I dont need it for updates. With f...

fiftydinar•1/4/24, 8:34 AM

Not sure if Bazzite removed this package

Ffiftydinar I delete gnome-software-rpm-ostree package as I dont need it for updates. With f...

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 8:58 AM

Hmmm

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 8:58 AM

Sounds worth checking

j0rge•1/4/24, 1:09 PM

non atomic fedora has packagekit and stock silverblue has rpm-ostree backend enabled. We don't have any of those things.

j0rge•1/4/24, 1:10 PM

we only really get the metadata refresh jank

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:20 PM

Uhh

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:20 PM

[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 08:20:12,077] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
             ^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 238, in main
    hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed(
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 86, in hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed
    raise Exception(f"update failed to pass checks: \n - {exception_log}")
Exception: update failed to pass checks: 
 - Battery less than 50.0%

[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 08:20:12,077] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
             ^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 238, in main
    hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed(
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 86, in hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed
    raise Exception(f"update failed to pass checks: \n - {exception_log}")
Exception: update failed to pass checks: 
 - Battery less than 50.0%

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:20 PM

I'm on a desktop...

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:20 PM

Battery?

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:23 PM

are my updates broken or is this some other weirdness?

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 2:26 PM

If you have a wireless mouse, psutil is likely polling it

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:26 PM

I do, but both mouse and keyboard are above 90%

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 2:31 PM

Hmm... I will look into it

EEyeCantCU Hmm... I will look into it

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:34 PM

Thanks. If you need any info from me lmk. Interestingly, I rebooted, and ublue-update ran properly once, but then I ran it again, and the error happened once more.

KKamquat Thanks. If you need any info from me lmk. Interestingly, I rebooted, and ublue-u...

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 2:37 PM

Definitely will. Thank you for letting us know

Kamquat•1/4/24, 2:38 PM

UUriyah Bazzite I had a million issues installing it to steam deck. So far loving naboro

dnkmmr•1/4/24, 3:02 PM

isn't nobaro steam deck version mutable?

Ddnkmmr isn't nobaro steam deck version mutable?

termdisc•1/4/24, 3:11 PM

yes

Ttermdisc yes

dnkmmr•1/4/24, 3:13 PM

that means if something went wrong with the update, the system may be unbootable

anoldguy•1/4/24, 3:14 PM

Sorry for the bother in advance. I see that installing on OLED means using a dock, but once installed and switched to :testing, is all of the hardware working? I read the issue in GH, and it's not clear if wifi is working after switching.

Ddnkmmr that means if something went wrong with the update, the system may be unbootable

termdisc•1/4/24, 3:14 PM

I wouldn't go as far as saying that

EEyeCantCU Definitely will. Thank you for letting us know

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:24 PM

I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a successful ublue-update run about 10 minutes after a fresh reboot. The second is just now.

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

KKamquat I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a succ...

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:37 PM

It's retriggered on failure. I think the issue is it sees it as a battery but it doesn't provide an ACPI path

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:37 PM

There's an open fix but it hasn't been merged quite yet

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

Then it's got to be my logitech trackball and keyboard, cause that's the only battery-having things.

EEyeCantCU There's an open fix but it hasn't been merged quite yet

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

Ah okay. will updates working right after boot let me still get the update whenever it comes?

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

(I shut down at night, so I get a fresh boot daily)

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:40 PM

Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with the fix. In the meantime, ublue-update --force should do the trick

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:40 PM

Okay. Thanks

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:41 PM

I still haven't gotten an OS-image update since I installed (to my knowledge), but I've no idea how regular they are or aren't, and it'd only been a few days

EEyeCantCU Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with...

Kamquat•1/4/24, 3:41 PM

Yep --force worked.

Jj0rge we only really get the metadata refresh jank

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:02 PM

What metadata refresh jank, exactly?

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:06 PM

that spinner that sits there or, when you're browsing the store it immediately goes into refresh mode

Jj0rge that spinner that sits there or, when you're browsing the store it immediately g...

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:19 PM

Ahh. Yeah, the fact that it refreshes every 20 seconds or so is extremely problematic

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:24 PM

Is there any way to prevent that?

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:39 PM

it's why remove the backends, it's way worse upstream. Someone needs to fix it or someone needs to make a flatpak-native package manager, part of the problem with older tools is they're designed to be pluggable with backends for a bunch of package management systems, etc.

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:39 PM

there's no need for that any more

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:45 PM

Ah, hm

EEyeCantCU Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with...

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 6:00 PM

Can you link me to that fix? I'm happy to do that

KKyle Gospo Can you link me to that fix? I'm happy to do that

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 6:02 PM

That would be awesome! https://github.com/giampaolo/psutil/pull/2305

Geechan•1/4/24, 6:07 PM

Hey all, just have a quick question. Is it possible to enable the Steam gamescope session on the desktop build, or is it exclusive to the Deck builds? I would like to be able to have gamescope-session connect to my TV when I want to game on my desktop PC (for HDR, etc.), while also being able to use desktop mode the majority of the time. Also wondering if there's any caveats to running the deck build on a desktop setup (with AMD graphics).

I currently have this setup on Arch using gamescope-session-steam from the AUR, and it's working well for me.

GGeechan Hey all, just have a quick question. Is it possible to enable the Steam gamescop...

Noel•1/4/24, 6:14 PM

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference between the Deck build and the Desktop build is the desktop doesn't ship game scope. I believe you can run the deck version on a desktop if you want to (I tested it in a VM previously and it seemed to work fine)

[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update [2024-01-04 08:20:12,077] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(main()) ^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 238, in main hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed( File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ublue_update/cli.py", line 86, in hardware_inhibitor_checks_failed raise Exception(f"update failed to pass checks: \n - {exception_log}") Exception: update failed to pass checks: - Battery less than 50.0%

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh [fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update [2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

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