Also kinda offtopic, but it seems that the MSI Claw will come with an ARC iGPU, not the usual Iris f

Also kinda offtopic, but it seems that the MSI Claw will come with an ARC iGPU, not the usual Iris fluff, I'm tempted because, well, I like testing new stuff, but AFAIK, there's no arc support in linux, right?

CCharlieBros Also kinda offtopic, but it seems that the MSI Claw will come with an ARC iGPU, ...

Kyle Gospo•1/6/24, 7:12 AM

arc works great on linux

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:12 AM

Oh, there is a driver and everything?

Kyle Gospo•1/6/24, 7:12 AM

yep, built into the kernel

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:12 AM

I swear I read around here that it was terrible

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:13 AM

I'm going to make a wild guess... but does it perform better than in Windows?

CCharlieBros I'm going to make a wild guess... but does it perform better than in Windows?

Valerie•1/6/24, 7:13 AM

Pretty sure

CCharlieBros I'm going to make a wild guess... but does it perform better than in Windows?

Kyle Gospo•1/6/24, 7:13 AM

yep

Valerie•1/6/24, 7:13 AM

Doesn't game mode work now?

VValerie Doesn't game mode work now?

Kyle Gospo•1/6/24, 7:14 AM

should for most

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:14 AM

Wine basically translates DX9 and up to Vulkan, and ARC GPUs are dog crap with anything below DX12, but shine like a diamond in DX12 and Vulkan

KKyle Gospo yep

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:14 AM

Iiiiinteresting

CCharlieBros Wine basically translates DX9 and up to Vulkan, and ARC GPUs are dog crap with a...

Valerie•1/6/24, 7:14 AM

Their DXVK implementation is probably just not as good

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:15 AM

Yeah, didn't they literally just yoinked a DXVK port for Windows and called it a day? I do know they work reaaaally hard on the drivers tho, like, surprisingly so

CCharlieBros Also kinda offtopic, but it seems that the MSI Claw will come with an ARC iGPU, ...

dreamyuki•1/6/24, 7:26 AM

yes but it still have rough edges with some games
there is new driver that will replace i915 https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-New-Xe-Linux-Driver

Intel Preparing New "Xe" Linux Kernel Graphics Driver For Modern iG...

If you are running the newest Intel Raptor Lake processors with integrated graphics and the latest Intel Arc Graphics discrete graphics cards under Linux, you are currently relying on the Intel 'i915' DRM kernel graphics driver..

Ddreamyuki yes but it still have rough edges with some games there is new driver that will ...

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 7:41 AM

Yeah, their driver on Linux is quite not complete.

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 7:41 AM

They are still missing a lot of Vulkan extensions needed for stuff.

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 7:42 AM

They made dedicated GPUs with integrated driver support basically :P

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:51 AM

Would you look at that! Phoronix has a laptop with the rumoured chip and compared it with the 7840U, Z1 Extreme with AI thingymabobs

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:51 AM

https://www.phoronix.com/review/meteor-lake-arc-graphics

Intel Meteor Lake Arc Graphics: A Fantastic Upgrade, Battles AMD RD...

Yesterday I posted the first Intel Meteor Lake Linux benchmarks that were focused on the CPU capabilities with the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H on Ubuntu Linux compared to the existing AMD Ryzen 7 7840U.

CharlieBrosOP•1/6/24, 7:59 AM

Either similar or better performance using less energy, go go competition!

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 9:57 AM

They seem to have a decent GPU at least.

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 9:57 AM

Problem is that 99% of issues with Intel graphics is with their drivers, not the hardware in itself.

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 9:58 AM

(And CPU was underwhelming, from what I read. I'm not surprised by that)

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 9:58 AM

Good luck selling the MSI thing with Intel Windows drivers on top :P

RRodoMa92 They seem to have a decent GPU at least.

RodoMa92•1/6/24, 9:59 AM

Especially more power efficient, which I did not predict a mile away XD

Lazorne•1/6/24, 11:13 AM

https://github.com/dev-0x7C6/xwiimote-ng

I found out that someone has finally forked the xwiimote project.
I don't know if this could be included in bazzite or not, but I just wanted to at least inform that this exists.

GitHub

GitHub - dev-0x7C6/xwiimote-ng: Open Source Nintendo Wii Remote Lin...

Open Source Nintendo Wii Remote Linux Device Driver. Modernized version of original xwiimote. - GitHub - dev-0x7C6/xwiimote-ng: Open Source Nintendo Wii Remote Linux Device Driver. Modernized versi...

LLazorne https://github.com/dev-0x7C6/xwiimote-ng I found out that someone has finally ...

EyeCantCU•1/6/24, 11:18 AM

Thank you! Will have a look here shortly

EEyeCantCU Thank you! Will have a look here shortly

Lazorne•1/6/24, 11:29 AM

I found this on my quest to document how you connect most of gaming inputs with Linux (with a RetroDECK lens) and find if there are roadblocks and what they are.

Still WIP on the Wiimote entry for those that want to read it:
https://retrodeck.readthedocs.io/en/latest/wiki_controllers/controllers-motion/

Some things I did not know about what the efforts in happening right now in systemd on gaming devices:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/22681

LLazorne I found this on my quest to document how you connect most of gaming inputs with ...

EyeCantCU•1/6/24, 11:35 AM

That is extremely cool. Your documentation is put together very nicely. Had no idea the systemd folks were working on this kind of stuff. Awesome to see

Lazorne•1/6/24, 11:50 AM

If you are intressed I can keep posting my findings here

if that is ok by the rest of the bazzite team.
Else check on the RetroDECK wiki and I will document everything there.

I'm also trying to save up to buy some other old hardware controllers, it is easier to write a guide when you have it in hand.
Most things are not well documented, even by the emulators or even Valve.

LLazorne If you are intressed I can keep posting my findings here 😉 if that is ok by the...

EyeCantCU•1/6/24, 12:20 PM

I'm definitely interested and okay with that. A lot of documentation is lacking and it's nice to know what's going on, especially if it means we may be able to improve things here. I really appreciate it

Everything is easier with hardware in hand haha

Lazorne•1/6/24, 1:23 PM

Ok input detective Lazorne found something else:

This talks about an effort to add the Wii-U gamepad into the hid of the main kernel.
https://lwn.net/Articles/856552/
https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20211027101043.31609-6-linkmauve@linkmauve.fr/

But the effort seams to have stalled.

It is based on the work done by https://github.com/rolandoislas/libdrc

It looks like https://gitlab.com/linux-wiiu/linux-wiiu

The Linux distro for the wii u have been keeping on developing it.

The hid exists in their repo here:

https://gitlab.com/linux-wiiu/linux-wiiu/-/blob/rewrite-4.19/drivers/hid/hid-wiiu-drc.c

Maybe it could be intressting for bazzite

Lazorne•1/6/24, 1:24 PM

https://tenor.com/view/on-the-case-search-detective-on-it-hat-gif-26966323

Tenor

Raltay•1/6/24, 1:31 PM

I think it was mentioned already some time ago, but to be sure - rebasing from bazzite-deck to bazzite-deck-gnome will introduce instabilities to the system and is not recommended? (In other words, if I want to check GNOME deck version as a long time KDE user, I have to do full reinstall?)

Raltay•1/6/24, 1:34 PM

https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-VRR-2024

GNOME's Variable Refresh Rate "VRR" Support Continues Coming Together

For the GNOME desktop among the technologies that will hopefully mature into good shape this year are high dynamic range (HDR) display support as well as variable refresh rate (VRR)

Raltay•1/6/24, 1:34 PM

Also FYI wrt earlier talk about VRR support in Gnome

RRaltay Also FYI wrt earlier talk about VRR support in Gnome

Kamquat•1/6/24, 2:18 PM

Hasn't Gnome been working on that for a few years at this point? I mean, for the sake of gnome users, I hope they do sort it out this year, I just tend to not hold my breath in relation to gnome getting stuff done in a sensible timeframe.

LLazorne Ok input detective Lazorne found something else: This talks about an effort to ...

EyeCantCU•1/6/24, 2:22 PM

Will definitely take a look! In the meantime, I've packaged xwiimote-ng