Today while flying the Spit in DCS I heard a loud crack and the stick went limp in the Y axis. Feari

Today while flying the Spit in DCS I heard a loud crack and the stick went limp in the Y axis. Fearing the worst I took of my VR googles and turned the Rhino off and on after a quick inspection where I found no obvious fault. I then preceded to try and replicate this, and it looks like my belt in the Y axis is way looser than the X axis causing it to skip. I also get a Fault_Encoder_Magnet or Fault_Unexpected_D_Current then the belt skips. Hopefully I have not damaged anything and it’s just the loose belt. Any way to tighten the belt?

Icebeat•1/9/24, 1:30 AM

the new version doesn't support windows scale layout at 3840x2160 and scale layout 150%

Icebeat•1/9/24, 1:35 AM

after launch with joystick and pedals

IIcebeat after launch with joystick and pedals

Number481•1/9/24, 1:42 AM

Congratulations on being the first to report an issue. Not even sure how to start going about the resolution issue but will look into it.

How do you have the launch settings set up? You don’t want to start TelemFFB with any launch args. Just open the exe

IIcebeat the new version doesn't support windows scale layout at 3840x2160 and scale lay...

Number481•1/9/24, 1:55 AM

(p.s.) fix identified for the scaling issue

Icebeat•1/9/24, 2:02 AM

I launched TelemFFB as always and said yes to the auto-update after finished the new TelemFFB, which was displayed with the wrong UI size.
On the second error, I checked in System Settings the auto-launch and start headless for pedals and collective but I don't have collective, and because it is not visible, I couldn't enable the joystick option

Icebeat•1/9/24, 2:04 AM

also, it will be great to have a revert to last previous version as a safe

Number481•1/9/24, 2:04 AM

were you on the very latest version before you updated to this version?

IIcebeat I launched TelemFFB as always and said yes to the auto-update after finished the...

Number481•1/9/24, 2:05 AM

why did you enable auto launch for a device you dont have?

OK.. so it shouldn't let you save under that condition but....

Number481•1/9/24, 2:07 AM

if so.. check this folder for your backup... if not.. well... moving forward... you can check this folder for the backup from the previous version

NNumber481 were you on the very latest version before you updated to this version?

Icebeat•1/9/24, 2:09 AM

yes

Icebeat•1/9/24, 2:11 AM

thnaks for the tip about the last version, I didn't know

IIcebeat thnaks for the tip about the last version, I didn't know

Number481•1/9/24, 2:17 AM

Its a brand new feature that I shoved into the very last commit before this new version and didn't document anywhere..

Number481•1/9/24, 2:18 AM

Were you able to get the new version started with only the pedals selected in the launch options? Because of the error state you may need to delete the system settings from the registry... Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VPforce\TelemFFB you can just delete the whole TelemFFB key

IIcebeat thnaks for the tip about the last version, I didn't know

Number481•1/9/24, 2:51 AM

just pushed a new build that should fix the DPI scaling, disallow erroneous autolaunch configs and allow you to at least startup with your corrupted registry settings (though you will see "cant connect to "FFFF:" errors)...

Edwin.Zhang•1/9/24, 5:30 AM

@walmis Recently, I've been experiencing frequent protective shutdowns on the Y-axis. I will make a video to show the situation. At that time, I will also share my debugging and configuration files. Could you help me take a look and see where the problem might be?

Edwin.Zhang•1/9/24, 5:32 AM

Edwin.Zhang•1/9/24, 5:33 AM

This issue often occurs during stall shuddering and the instant of firing the machine gun, and it always results in a shutdown of the Y-axis.

walmis•1/9/24, 5:36 AM

Hey, try reducing the damper/inertia/friction LPFs in the configurator, I see you use all the effects simultaneously (damper/inertia/friction) so that might cause instabilities with the current settings.

Edwin.Zhang•1/9/24, 5:39 AM

What would be the appropriate values to set for each LPF?

walmis•1/9/24, 5:43 AM

Try experimenting, but I've found down to 2Hz is slow, but reliable

SSleepy81 Today while flying the Spit in DCS I heard a loud crack and the stick went limp ...

walmis•1/9/24, 7:14 AM

No worries, your Rhino is safe, motors enter into self protection if there is unusual stuff happening.
You can follow the manual to retighten the belts:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.z337ya

Google Docs

VPforce Rhino Manual

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 11:56 AM

Hey guys how do I go about downloading & installing the new TelemFFB software? can I just do a git pull? or should I reinstall?

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 11:59 AM

lol, nvn I used my brain & found the download

PPiNKSH!T lol, nvn I used my brain & found the download

Number481•1/9/24, 12:09 PM

if you're running the exe package, it will auto-update

NNumber481 if you're running the exe package, it will auto-update

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:10 PM

oh I've just been using the python install of telemffb & doing a git pull to update, but I just dl'ed the new version & used the .exe, will that be ok? cheers

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:10 PM

also thanks heaps for all the work you & others done with this

PPiNKSH!T oh I've just been using the python install of telemffb & doing a git pull to upd...

Number481•1/9/24, 12:13 PM

yeah, just make sure you grab the latest zip from #VPforce-TelemFFB . The 'stable release' posted on GitHub is a snapshot of the WiP branch from a couple days ago.

NNumber481 yeah, just make sure you grab the latest zip from #VPforce-TelemFFB . The 'stab...

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:13 PM

oh the bottom link?

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:14 PM

3017d8df

Number481•1/9/24, 12:14 PM

yeah.. or you can hit the link in the pinned messages in that channel which should bring you to the download site with the page already sorted by newest

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:16 PM

yeah sweet looks like I dl'ed the 3017d8df one, so I'm on the new one?

Number481•1/9/24, 12:20 PM

yessir

NNumber481 yessir

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:21 PM

hey m8, is runway rumble supposed to be on 750%?

PPiNKSH!T hey m8, is runway rumble supposed to be on 750%?

Number481•1/9/24, 12:26 PM

hah.. runway rumble is one of those weird effects that didn't blow up if you set the value higher than 1.0 in the original configs and I think there were some aircraft that had that set as the default.

One of the new aspects of this new UI is that the settings sliders can be made so that they only offer a useful range, even though they display %0-100.

So many of the usable effect intensity values are in the 0.1-0.2 range, that the sliders are actually applying a scaling factor under the hood to 1.) only provide a usable setting range and 2.) give more granularity inside that setting range.

So there are some artifacts like that (%750) on a few of the old default values.

Number481•1/9/24, 12:27 PM

the slider range for the runway rumble may need to be adjusted (in a subsequent version)

NNumber481 hah.. runway rumble is one of those weird effects that didn't blow up if you se...

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:27 PM

ahh ok lol, once I touched that slider & set it to full it's at 100%, hiting the 'x' will put it back to 750%

Number481•1/9/24, 12:28 PM

yeah, the x button reverts the setting to what is in the default config

Number481•1/9/24, 12:32 PM

BTW, since you migrated from source.. you can take your old user config and drop it in the exe folder. If it is named

config.user.ini

config.user.ini

, telemFFB will see it when starting and offer to convert those settings to the new model for you.

If it has a different name, you will need to start telemFFB with the

-o <userconfig filename>

-o <userconfig filename>

runtime flag in order for it to pick it up for conversion.

NNumber481 BTW, since you migrated from source.. you can take your old user config and dro...

PiNKSH!T•1/9/24, 12:33 PM

oh I never editied the .ini

TonyM•1/9/24, 7:12 PM

virus detected on Windows 11
VPforce-TelemFFB-wip-3017d8df (latest release)

Mr. S•1/9/24, 7:31 PM

Just updated to TelemFFB 1.0, getting this error on trying to convert the user.ini, halp?

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•1/9/24, 7:44 PM

@walmis @Number481 The latest auto update has made a mess. It did not restart after the update and the updater now enters a continuous cycle of updating from the former start shortcut. No new install location can be found. Is there a manual version of importing the previous *.VPconf files and User.ini?

NNumber481 BTW, since you migrated from source.. you can take your old user config and dro...

Mr. S•1/9/24, 7:45 PM

exept in my case it does not work?

TTonyM virus detected on Windows 11 VPforce-TelemFFB-wip-3017d8df (latest release)

Number481•1/9/24, 7:52 PM

common occurence for apps bundled with pyinstaller.. Windows defender and some other AV tools will sometimes flag a given build as a virus. This is because it is written in Python and compiled with ‘pyinstaller’ which can sometimes result in certain partial file hashes that have been previously found in low tech malware that is commonly also written in Python and compiled with pyinstaller

MMr. S exept in my case it does not work?

Number481•1/9/24, 7:53 PM

more info needed.... does it crash? does it say it did something but nothing happened? does it do nothing at all?

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |@walmis @Number481 The latest auto update has made a mess. It did not restart af...

Number481•1/9/24, 7:55 PM

recommend trying not launching from a shortcut. launch directly from the exe.. but if the in-pace install is already corrupted, it might be easier just to grab the latest zip distribution and start fresh https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/TelemFFB/?C=M;O=D

NNumber481 more info needed.... does it crash? does it say it did something but nothing h...

Mr. S•1/9/24, 8:00 PM

mh, it crashes and the .xml config has nothing in it.

Mr. S•1/9/24, 8:01 PM

if I say "no" to the initial config.user.ini conversion prompt it behaves normally.

Mr. S•1/9/24, 8:01 PM

I mean, it starts, but if I try the conversion from Utility it crashes silently before doing anything

MMr. S I mean, it starts, but if I try the conversion from Utility it crashes silently ...

Number481•1/9/24, 8:11 PM

interesting... send me your userconfig if you don't mind... I'd like to investigate why its failing. If the config worked with the previous TelemFFB without error, it should convert over.

Today while flying the Spit in DCS I heard a loud crack and the stick went limp in the Y axis. Feari

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