To be fair, so is AMD, lol. They've gotten the support they have because they opened their driver st

To be fair, so is AMD, lol. They've gotten the support they have because they opened their driver stack. If they didn't, I guarantee it would have been just as slow or worse than Nvidia's support

AAl-Mumin nvidia is slow in keeping up with linux support lol

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:42 AM

That was a reply to this one i quoted...

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:42 AM

And in fact, it was worse for a long time. You basically had to use Nvidia back in the day

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:42 AM

im aware

GGeechan To be fair, so is AMD, lol. They've gotten the support they have because they op...

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:42 AM

The best way to make a driver stack is to let literally anybody else do it

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:42 AM

Agreed

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:43 AM

The open source community has many eyes on the code at once

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:43 AM

Anyhow, both companies Intel and nVidia are like (or actually are?) Micro$@$ with their closed source crap stuff...

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:43 AM

nvidia still refusing to open source of their drivers lol

pintocat•1/18/24, 9:43 AM

Intel has quite a bit of open source afaik

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:43 AM

The drawback to the open source approach is you need to be on bleeding edge kernel and mesa versions for new hardware support (and even then, it's not immediate). With Nvidia's blob, it's pretty much immediate support

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:44 AM

Support does end up being far better in the long term with AMD

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:45 AM

i might just say goodbye to nvidia if they havent fix their garbage lol

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:46 AM

AMD = Smart and comunity orientated...
Intel + nVidia = Self centered with only their own interests in mind, giving a fck about the consumers if they keep buying their crap

AAl-Mumin curious to ask whats better in terms gpu fans single or dual or triple?

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:46 AM

answers?

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:46 AM

Intel is actually very good with open source stuff - the Arc cards are just still considered quite experimental

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:46 AM

And thats from years (read decades) of computer experience...

pintocat•1/18/24, 9:46 AM

Nvidia is too busy chasing that over inflated money they were making at the height of crypto and chip shortage to give a crap

©©TriMoon™AMD = Smart and comunity orientated... Intel + nVidia = Self centered with only ...

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:47 AM

amd i agree and intel they smart too expect nvidia they gonna get bankrupt in couple years

AAl-Mumin answers?

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:47 AM

Depends on your GPU and case fans.... but like everything more is always better

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:47 AM

Nvidia definitely are not gonna get bankrupt anytime soon lol

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:47 AM

They're a trillion dollar company now

GGeechan They're a trillion dollar company now

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:48 AM

oh yeah every new gpu they make its more worse than old ones lol

pintocat•1/18/24, 9:48 AM

I could see Nvidia selling off or spinning off their consumer graphics business tho, to focus on ML

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:48 AM

I do agree their modern GPUs are laughably overpriced

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

they still perform well, but pricing is a complete mess

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

The best and smartest thing Intel and nVidia can do is buy shares in AMD, but keeping their PAWS off of actual decissions made by AMD...

GGeechan I do agree their modern GPUs are laughably overpriced

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

legit i found nvidia gpu cost 1.5k like thats scam lol

AAl-Mumin oh yeah every new gpu they make its more worse than old ones lol

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

And people still buy them

Ppintocat I could see Nvidia selling off or spinning off their consumer graphics business ...

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

They're already sort of doing that. Their focus is definitely all in on ML

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

They can make slop as long as people buy it

©©TriMoon™RayTracing is over hyped, no games REALLY use or need it yet...

dreamyuki•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

Ray tracing is still tech demo

VValerie And people still buy them

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:49 AM

IKR, i did also and feel shamed to my guts i did for years

VValerie And people still buy them

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:50 AM

you mean scrappers aka those people who buy 20 gpus in 20 miinutes

Ddreamyuki Ray tracing is still tech demo

©TriMoon™•1/18/24, 9:50 AM

exactly what my point was...

AAl-Mumin you mean scrappers aka those people who buy 20 gpus in 20 miinutes

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:50 AM

No because 40 series is readily in stock? I don't like Nvidia as much as anyone in this server but their cards are selling lmfao

Al-Mumin•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

no one buys 40 series nowdays since it trash lol

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

Nah, plenty buy 40 series cards, trust me

pintocat•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

My last Nvidia was the 970, the one advertised as 4gb vram but actually only 3.5. I got a class action check for like.. I don't remember, like $15 I think. What a joke

AAl-Mumin no one buys 40 series nowdays since it trash lol

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

???

VValerie No because 40 series is readily in stock? I don't like Nvidia as much as anyone ...

Well they aint selling to me, cause im never gonna buy nVidia anymore...

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

It's almost always recommended over AMD cards in a lot of spaces

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

Not saying it should be like that, but it is

Valerie•1/18/24, 9:51 AM

Hasn't 40 series been like, super good for Nvidia?

GeechanOP•1/18/24, 9:52 AM