i guess for heroic games launcher, i dont like that it offers to use proton/proton-ge OUTSIDE of ste

i guess for heroic games launcher, i dont like that it offers to use proton/proton-ge OUTSIDE of steam… pretty sure Glorious Eggroll is tired of telling people this

DDevilFish303 i guess for heroic games launcher, i dont like that it offers to use proton/prot...

fiftydinar•2/8/24, 7:29 PM

This is going to be a non-issue once ULWGL becomes fully utilized by every store, including Heroic Games Launcher

Ffiftydinar This is going to be a non-issue once ULWGL becomes fully utilized by every store...

DevilFish303OP•2/8/24, 7:31 PM

lets hope it gets widely adopted

DDevilFish303 lets hope it gets widely adopted

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:31 PM

definitely will, lutris, bottles, heroic, and others are all collaborating on it

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:31 PM

can't wait

fiftydinar•2/8/24, 7:33 PM

Greatest thing for me is that non-launcher versions will get the benefit too

matt_schwartz•2/8/24, 7:34 PM

also finally introduces a better system for games that are not on any of the major typical storefronts

Mmatt_schwartz also finally introduces a better system for games that are not on any of the maj...

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:34 PM

real shame the itch.io flatpak is so bad

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:35 PM

was real potential there

fiftydinar•2/8/24, 7:35 PM

Also wine works on better Direct Music support for old games
I play old PES & Winning Eleven which either have no sound, or have huge audio latency when installing proprietary Direct Music libs

ChaiQi•2/8/24, 7:45 PM

@Kyle Gospo Is the version number in rpm-ostree status output the Bazzite version? I have three deployments of 39.20240116.0 (bazzite-gnome-nvidia:testing) from 01/26, 02/03, and 02/05, where the 01/26 image is dramatically more stable in a few ways, and I'm wondering if anything notable changed after 01/26

termdisc•2/8/24, 7:51 PM

while I can't tell you the specific differences, you can see the

Diff

Diff

line indicate just the number of package differences between 02-05 and 02-03. sometimes things don't play nice with other things

Ffiftydinar This is going to be a non-issue once ULWGL becomes fully utilized by every store...

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 7:51 PM

I had to do a search to find what

ULWGL

ULWGL

was, so for others also:
https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/ULWGL-launcher

GitHub

GitHub - Open-Wine-Components/ULWGL-launcher

Contribute to Open-Wine-Components/ULWGL-launcher development by creating an account on GitHub.

CChaiQi @Kyle Gospo Is the version number in rpm-ostree status output the Bazzite versio...

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:52 PM

quite a lot has changed since 01/26, mostly versions of things

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:52 PM

and not new features

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 7:52 PM

what sort of instability are you having?

ChaiQi•2/8/24, 7:53 PM

Wayland session crashing on/after suspend, games freezing/crashing semi-randomly and especially if the window loses focus

DDevilFish303 lets hope it gets widely adopted

termdisc•2/8/24, 7:53 PM

it will be adopted by Lutris and Heroic

termdisc•2/8/24, 7:54 PM

Wayland crashing could just be wayland being wayland. plus I have always found that suspend in Linux is always a risk

ChaiQi•2/8/24, 7:54 PM

Warframe in particular would crash within seconds to minutes

Ttermdisc Wayland crashing could just be wayland being wayland. plus I have always found t...

ChaiQi•2/8/24, 7:56 PM

Yeah, the 01/26 -> 02/03 jump was because the 01/26 image very uniquely did not crash for about a week of nightly or more often suspend/wake cycles, unlike images from both earlier and later

termdisc•2/8/24, 8:06 PM

i feel your pain

termdisc•2/8/24, 8:07 PM

I straight up jumped to GNOME for a few months because of sleep issues. for a while on KDE, waking up showed only one color across the screen until I logged in for 30 seconds, but I had to do so blindly

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:09 PM

In relation to sleep/resume:
Isn't this service supposed to be running?

$  systemctl status nvidia-persistenced.service 
○ nvidia-persistenced.service - NVIDIA Persistence Daemon
     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service; disabled; preset: disabled)
    Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d
             └─10-timeout-abort.conf
     Active: inactive (dead)

$  systemctl status nvidia-persistenced.service 
○ nvidia-persistenced.service - NVIDIA Persistence Daemon
     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service; disabled; preset: disabled)
    Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d
             └─10-timeout-abort.conf
     Active: inactive (dead)

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:10 PM

Will change to my Kubuntu system real quick to check...

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:18 PM

Yup just checked and it IS running by default in Kubuntu...

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:18 PM

So there might be a problem with the nVidia driver install in Bazzite in this respect...

Kamquat•2/8/24, 8:21 PM

Automatic leep/Resume just doesn't work on my desktop. Displays shut off, and then come back on, over the course of about 10 mins each time. I haven't really worried about it though. If I do it manually it works, but it's 50/50 if my USB peripherals (Logitech kbd/mouse via unifying reciever dongle) work again after waking up

KKamquat Automatic leep/Resume just doesn't work on my desktop. Displays shut off, and th...

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:24 PM

That could be related to the USB device not being reinitialized properly after a resume. I mean your dongle not the USB "port"

©©TriMoon™That could be related to the USB device not being reinitialized properly after a...

Kamquat•2/8/24, 8:25 PM

Probably, I really haven't done much trouble shooting because whenever it happens I have to do a forced reboot, so I just quit using sleep (and it's a desktop so I'm not worried about battery life or anything)

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:26 PM

Does the same happen when you hybernate?
Which is supposed to store the memory in current state to disk

©©TriMoon™Does the same happen when you hybernate? _Which is supposed to store the memory ...

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:26 PM

Hibernation isn't supported in fedora atomic

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:26 PM

ahh ok

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:26 PM

normal sleep only

CChaiQi I see your workspace minimap thing I am currently forgetting the name of is much...

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:27 PM

Space Bar

©TriMoon™•2/8/24, 8:27 PM

Kyle, pls check what i said

wrt to that service...

Cause i also noticed sleep/resume problems in Bazzite-nVidia

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:29 PM

nvidia-smi | fpaste

nvidia-smi | fpaste

KKyle Gospo `nvidia-smi | fpaste`

https://paste.centos.org/view/56b09d4b

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:30 PM

nvidia-smi - q | fpaste

nvidia-smi - q | fpaste

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:30 PM

I think

new one as you requested

https://paste.centos.org/view/49801d9c

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:31 PM

https://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/driver-persistence/index.html#persistence-mode

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:31 PM

here, this is what I'm interested in seeing

The issue i noticed is graphics problem after resume

nvidia-smi -i 0 -q | fpaste

nvidia-smi -i 0 -q | fpaste

https://paste.centos.org/view/59344b91

It shows disabled....

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:39 PM

try toggling it on

Re-upped this time using sudo in front, as i saw a lot of NA...
https://paste.centos.org/view/33f93354

KKyle Gospo try toggling it on

How?

©©TriMoon™How?

Kyle Gospo•2/8/24, 8:40 PM

command to do that is in the link I sent you

$ systemctl status nvidia-persistenced.service ○ nvidia-persistenced.service - NVIDIA Persistence Daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service; disabled; preset: disabled) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: inactive (dead)

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