Hi, I turned on my PC this morning, and trying to boot 02-09 hangs on this screen I have never seen

Hi, I turned on my PC this morning, and trying to boot 02-09 hangs on this screen I have never seen before (I waited 5 mins)

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:16 PM

I had to force reboot and load 0205 to get logged in

Natalie•2/10/24, 2:18 PM

this happened to my ally last night, i had to let it sit for quite a long time

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:18 PM

ugh...

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:19 PM

If I somehow have to wait more than 5 mins to even boot, that's not the kind of thing I need when I'm trying to boot my PC in the morning to get stuff done

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:19 PM

what even is it? I've used Linux for two decades and never seen that.

KKamquat Hi, I turned on my PC this morning, and trying to boot 02-09 hangs on this scree...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:19 PM

Dunno what it is, but it's normal on bazzite

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:19 PM

If that's any relief lol

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:20 PM

I've been using Bazzite since Dec and never seen it

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:20 PM

Googling it is singularly unhelpful as well

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:20 PM

I've been using it since it has basically started existing, seen it 5 times-ish?

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:20 PM

wtf

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:21 PM

if random massively long boot times (it took so long I reboot since I assume it hung) are normal, that's a problem

NNatalie this happened to my ally last night, i had to let it sit for quite a long time

Quist•2/10/24, 2:21 PM

took 15 minutes for me yesterday

Quist•2/10/24, 2:21 PM

I just put it up to using a pretty slow SSD but maybe not

KKamquat if random massively long boot times (it took so long I reboot since I assume it ...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:21 PM

I doubt it's "random" if it literally tells you what is happening on the screen.

Natalie•2/10/24, 2:22 PM

i don't remember how long it took for me, but it was quite a while, around 10 minutes probably

VValerie I doubt it's "random" if it literally tells you what is happening on the screen.

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:22 PM

It's random in that it's never happened to me before in several months, and I shut down last night with no issues and booted my PC this morning to run into it.

KKamquat Hi, I turned on my PC this morning, and trying to boot 02-09 hangs on this scree...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:22 PM

@Kyle Gospo Could you help explain what this is about?

KKamquat It's random in that it's never happened to me before in several months, and I sh...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:22 PM

Oh, it might be because of the new kernel

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:23 PM

Fedora got 6.7 recently

fiftydinar•2/10/24, 2:25 PM

Applying kernel arguments is slow when using full initramfs, which Bazzite is using

Quist•2/10/24, 2:25 PM

rpm-ostree also takes an eternity to run, I don’t remember it being as bad on other atomic fedoras I’ve tried, I wonder if there’s something weird going on

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:26 PM

I assume because it's downloading a compiled image

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:26 PM

I believe there are speed improvements coming

fiftydinar•2/10/24, 2:26 PM

It has to update whole initramfs instead of just karg changes compared to the normal rpm-ostree kargsrpm-ostree kargs

VValerie I assume because it's downloading a compiled image

fiftydinar•2/10/24, 2:27 PM

No, it does not do that on boot screen,
it does what I described above

fiftydinar•2/10/24, 2:27 PM

when you do normal rpm-ostree upgraderpm-ostree upgrade, it just boots normally to the system

Ffiftydinar No, it does not do that on boot screen, it does what I described above

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:28 PM

Oh, I wasn't talking about the bootscreen, I was talking about rpm-ostree taking an eternity to run in general.

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:28 PM

Not the updating kargs

fiftydinar•2/10/24, 2:28 PM

my bad

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:28 PM

2 different topics, hard to follow lol

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:29 PM

I will say my least favourite part about bazzite on my deck is update times

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:29 PM

My PC's not so bad because it just does them

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:30 PM

My Deck I have to stop using, update it (Usually in desktop mode because I don't trust the game mode updater lol) and then either use it or put it away

Ffiftydinar Applying kernel arguments is slow when using full initramfs, which Bazzite is us...

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:30 PM

Okay I rebooted again and waiting 6m47sec and it finally completed, automatically rebooted, and then booted normally.

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:30 PM

Freaked me out though since a boot up that long out of nowhere made me think my system was randomly FUBAR

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:31 PM

Are auto-updates still enabled on bazzite desktop?

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:31 PM

I heard something about them being disabled.

KKamquat Freaked me out though since a boot up that long out of nowhere made me think my ...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:31 PM

It's normal, not very frequent, I believe only when kernel changes are made.

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:32 PM

Okay now that I know I won't freak out next time. I've never used an immutable distro before the end of Dec, haven't seen that yet, and so had no idea that was even a thing, so a boot time that long with a process running with 'unlimited' as a timer on boot made me think broken install.

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:33 PM

And googling it on my phone got me basically nuffin

KKamquat And googling it on my phone got me basically nuffin 😄

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:34 PM

Quite new approaches/tech, google can be patchy on info

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:34 PM

If in doubt just ask here

KamquatOP•2/10/24, 2:35 PM

Well, yes, the issue was that so far as I could tell, I couldn't ask here as my PC couldn't boot (Well, until I ctrlaltdel and loaded the older image, so go immutable!

)

KKamquat Well, yes, the issue was that so far as I could tell, I couldn't ask here as my ...

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:47 PM

It's a learning experience, I'll say that much lmfao

Valerie•2/10/24, 2:47 PM

Before using Bazzite I was already on Fedora Kinoite so it's been a while since I went through the motions of being at the beginning of it all. Definitely still nowhere near an expert on it tho lol

Natalie•2/10/24, 3:18 PM

sending it now, gonna try daily driving bazzite, hope it sticks and i can actually move to linux

Natalie•2/10/24, 3:18 PM

last night testrun was pretty great so i feel like it's a good time for me to jump on

WagesOf•2/10/24, 3:18 PM

wow, that grey sure is purple

Natalie•2/10/24, 3:19 PM

viewing angles aren't great

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