wonder, anybody has tried using the rhino for car racing? Unsure how to calibrate it, the in game wh

wonder, anybody has tried using the rhino for car racing? Unsure how to calibrate it, the in game wheel moves left / right very fast even when I do nothing, and it is barely playable so wonder if this is doable. Or I need to add a deadzone?

harf4ngOP•3/1/24, 6:23 PM

in project cars 2 for instance when trying to calibrate it, I need first to move the "wheel" to the max side, then move it to 90°

Hharf4ng wonder, anybody has tried using the rhino for car racing? Unsure how to calibrat...

TheAmazinGreat•3/1/24, 6:36 PM

Most sim racing titles are built for wheels with 900/1080 degrees of rotation so you are essentially scaling it by a huge factor to get full travel. You don’t often need full travel during racing, maybe max 100 degrees either side. In iRacing you can define the limits of the wheel. If you can turn that down from 900 to 200 that may work. Not sure if PC2 has the same function.

TheAmazinGreat•3/1/24, 6:37 PM

You could use the motors from the rhino to make a wheel. But using the joystick as a wheel you need to downscale the virtual wheel axis travel.

TheAmazinGreat•3/1/24, 6:38 PM

harf4ngOP•3/1/24, 6:39 PM

ok thanks will check that. Or maybe I could use the gamepad option instead of wheel option in PC2, as gamepads still have analog axis but less travel... though maybe with gamepads force feedback will not work

harf4ngOP•3/1/24, 6:41 PM

I took the rhino for flight sims, and I removed my wheel as I do not have enough room in my cockpit for both a wheel and the rhino, but then if I can do some car racing with the rhino as well... ^^

TTheAmazinGreat Most sim racing titles are built for wheels with 900/1080 degrees of rotation so...

harf4ngOP•3/1/24, 6:48 PM

just thought about something... PC2 asks me to turn wheel to the max then wheel to 90° for calibration. So if I push stick to the max left then for the 90° also to the max left, the sim will think I have a 180° wheel (90° each side). Will have to try that to check if this works.

Hharf4ng just thought about something... PC2 asks me to turn wheel to the max then wheel ...

TheAmazinGreat•3/1/24, 9:08 PM

Sounds right to me!

Wwalmis I hope to receive new stock during March.

plehmann•3/1/24, 11:35 PM

should I just get the order going and it'll ship when you get stock -or wait until kit is back in stock

Wwalmis I hope to receive new stock during March.

MashedPotato•3/1/24, 11:39 PM

Is this still the hold up with the MFG conversion kits?

plehmann•3/1/24, 11:44 PM

could be, but that's a

q for @walmis

MashedPotato•3/1/24, 11:53 PM

that's why I asked that in a tagged reply lol

Eexil35 If you mean the force trim release that's only applicable for cyclics. So there ...

Brizzly•3/2/24, 1:53 AM

This is dependant on the helicopter. On an H-60, when you press the trim release on the cyclic, it removes the force gradiant on the cyclic, and the pedals. If the particular model you're flying also has force trim on the collective, the trim release for the collective is exclusive to the trigger on the collective.

mark turner•3/2/24, 10:42 AM

General query: Does the rhino retain as its settings the last applied vpconf file settings? IE when turning on the PC and before loading DCS, or any profiles, when the stick is powered, it uses the parameters of the last active profile....is this correct?

Bob Bushman•3/2/24, 10:43 AM

Last stored profile, you can load a profile and not store it.

Toddimus•3/2/24, 7:09 PM

Is there an ETA on the bigger 86BLF04 motors? I’m thinking about getting 3 of them for stick and rudder and then a small one 57BLF03? for a collective. Or will there be an even smaller one available? I thought I saw a 57BLF01 used for a collective.

Wwalmis I hope to receive new stock during March.

Fierce_Fire•3/2/24, 8:32 PM

@Toddimus

Toddimus•3/2/24, 8:36 PM

Thank you!

Havebug•3/2/24, 8:56 PM

Hi, is there a way to launch the VP Force configurator along with a specific configuration file and send that right away to the Rhino?

HHavebug Hi, is there a way to launch the VP Force configurator along with a specific con...

Number481•3/2/24, 9:45 PM

TelemFFB can do it for you if you are wanting to have different configs load per aircraft. If you have another use case for doing it, you can call the configurator executable via CLI and pass the config and device serial with

-config

-config

and

-serial

-serial

shagrat•3/2/24, 9:49 PM

Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino starta vibrating and finally beeps and seems to reset. I guess I trigger a safety mechanism, but I can't figure out why. What exactly is the cause for that "warning"/feedback?

Sshagrat Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino start...

Fierce_Fire•3/2/24, 10:00 PM

check your "Ibus" and max motor current, you're hitting that limit

Fierce_Fire•3/2/24, 10:01 PM

solution is to reduce the force or pull less hard

NNumber481 TelemFFB can do it for you if you are wanting to have different configs load per...

Havebug•3/2/24, 10:25 PM

yep, the latter is the case. I have issue with F14 that sometimes get crazy with the trim, pushing all the way forward or backward... I'd like, in case this appens during a mission, load a profile with the STICKY function on the spring and the trim override

Wwalmis Can you screenshot the app window with the effects/settings/debug tab open while...

JIGGAwest•3/3/24, 12:02 AM

HHavebug yep, the latter is the case. I have issue with F14 that sometimes get crazy with...

Number481•3/3/24, 1:14 AM

in that case you could just create a bat file and launch

path\to\VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config path\to\yourprofile.vpconf -serial YOURSERIALNUMBER

path\to\VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config path\to\yourprofile.vpconf -serial YOURSERIALNUMBER

If you only have one device I think you may be able to omit the serial number

Sshagrat Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino start...

walmis•3/3/24, 8:11 AM

The VP configurator shows the fault at the bottom right of the window, it displays OK when everything's normal. It'd be useful if you post your settings too.

shagrat•3/3/24, 9:29 AM

Figured it out, I guess, reduced "Spring Gain" to 95% and for whatever reason, "Spring strength proportional Dampening" in the Expert Settings was at 100% (I reduced it to default 25% and upped it to 40% now).
With these settings (see screenshots), it didn't happen anymore.

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harf4ngOP•3/3/24, 11:43 AM

hi, why is it recommended to have the center value to 2048? What it does if it is not at 2048?

harf4ngOP•3/3/24, 11:44 AM

My axis are like that

harf4ngOP•3/3/24, 11:45 AM

so the Y value is like that because I want the stick to be closer to me, but even the X axis is not centered at 2048, but it looks like it is centered

Hharf4ng hi, why is it recommended to have the center value to 2048? What it does if it i...

walmis•3/3/24, 12:13 PM

This notice is to avoid undefined behavior on startup when DIYing the Rhino or replacing belts.

harf4ngOP•3/3/24, 2:37 PM

What is the max recommended extension length to not wear off the motors too fast?

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[OR] SerGeant•3/3/24, 5:08 PM

hi there,
does TelemFFB have an autostart function or something else? Or a autostart with DCS?

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:30 PM

For it to do something like that I imagine it would need to have a running background service.

I think you can use the skatezilla launcher utility to start it an other software needed, granted I haven't actually used it for that yet myself.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/134493-the-dcs-updater-launcher-gui-utility-version-20-2023/

ED Forums

The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility Version 2.0 (2023+)

Introducing: The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility v2.0 (DULU) LAUNCH - MANAGE - UPDATE - REPAIR - CLEAN Note: This Utility is not Affiliated with Eagle Dynamics, and not responsible for support. LAUNCH: Launch DCS using Multiple Options and Switches. MANAGE: Manage Your Builds & User Profil...

BBob Bushman For it to do something like that I imagine it would need to have a running backg...

Dr. No•3/3/24, 6:42 PM

I created a .ps1 powershell program that's a button box where you can open up all the programs you want if you want I can put that on github from one button. Ill post a pic of it when I get a chance.

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:44 PM

I just keep my dcs programs pinned in the task bar and click in rapid succession
Easy works

Dr. No•3/3/24, 6:46 PM

Oh for me i have like 5 programs i have to open so this helps so much, plus I start it with windows too.
Hah i hear ya though, just might be useful for ya. I was learning powershell for work, but would be better if I made it into C#, no idea how to code that ... But ChatGPT does

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:50 PM

I like to keep it simple so really only start telem and configurator now.

smitty•3/3/24, 7:18 PM

configurator doesnt need to remain open for everything to work

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 7:29 PM

I'm just still tweaking and playing around with it.

DonHo•3/3/24, 9:47 PM

Good Day, I recently purchased a two-motor DIY kit and have somehow managed to misplace the motor wires. I would be grateful to know if these are standard wires and, if so, where they could be purchased here in North America. Alternatively, if those can be purchased individually from VPForce that would be great. Thank you.

DDonHo Good Day, I recently purchased a two-motor DIY kit and have somehow managed to m...

walmis•3/4/24, 7:19 AM

The connectors are JST PH 2 pin - Amazon will definitely will have them

Hammer•3/4/24, 3:10 PM

@walmis quick question, I bought the motor kit from you and made a diy stick from @Subsonic (Protomaker). I've only flown the f-14 in dcs with it and I get a random trim activation either left or right all the way (phantom button activation constant press) sporadically. After a few seconds of fighting it, it goes back to normal. All the wires are good, and settings are fine. Is there a way to refresh the firmware, and reset the motors learned value? This is the only thing I can think is causing an issue, thanks for the help.

HHammer @walmis quick question, I bought the motor kit from you and made a diy stick fro...

walmis•3/4/24, 3:29 PM

This sounds like a known F-14 bug when you change seats with WSO and the trim drifts fully to some direction

walmis•3/4/24, 3:33 PM

🧰support

Hammer•3/4/24, 3:42 PM

I am aware of that one. And that one trims full aft slowly.
For my issue I never change seats, and trim slams hard to left or right. ?

HHammer I am aware of that one. And that one trims full aft slowly. For my issue I neve...

walmis•3/4/24, 4:29 PM

Can you show your configuration? Both effect and settings pages

Hammer•3/4/24, 5:34 PM

Sure, I'm put now, will send it asap

Firaga•3/4/24, 8:51 PM

@walmis : Not sure if this is reported already but this issue was today replicated with two Rhino users. A-10C (and apparently also F-5) the DCS in-game control indicator range is shorter in fwd direction compared to aft (picture 1). As a consequence, Rhino is considering the neutral position to be this much fwd. Forces seem to be quite ok but the neutral position is very awkward (picture 2). The correct behavior would be that the Rhino is physically centered in neutral position and allows full aft deflection but with limited (or scaled) fwd deflection. Can we expect a fix for this or any tips for temporary workarounds? Would not want to edit the global profile as this problem exists only for certain modules.

wonder, anybody has tried using the rhino for car racing? Unsure how to calibrate it, the in game wh

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