Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino starta vibrating and fina

Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino starta vibrating and finally beeps and seems to reset. I guess I trigger a safety mechanism, but I can't figure out why. What exactly is the cause for that "warning"/feedback?

Sshagrat Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino start...

Fierce_Fire•3/2/24, 10:00 PM

check your "Ibus" and max motor current, you're hitting that limit

Fierce_Fire•3/2/24, 10:01 PM

solution is to reduce the force or pull less hard

NNumber481 TelemFFB can do it for you if you are wanting to have different configs load per...

Havebug•3/2/24, 10:25 PM

yep, the latter is the case. I have issue with F14 that sometimes get crazy with the trim, pushing all the way forward or backward... I'd like, in case this appens during a mission, load a profile with the STICKY function on the spring and the trim override

Wwalmis Can you screenshot the app window with the effects/settings/debug tab open while...

JIGGAwest•3/3/24, 12:02 AM

HHavebug yep, the latter is the case. I have issue with F14 that sometimes get crazy with...

Number481•3/3/24, 1:14 AM

in that case you could just create a bat file and launch

path\to\VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config path\to\yourprofile.vpconf -serial YOURSERIALNUMBER

path\to\VPforce_FFB_Configurator.exe -config path\to\yourprofile.vpconf -serial YOURSERIALNUMBER

If you only have one device I think you may be able to omit the serial number

Sshagrat Quick Question: when I reach the edge of the Y-axis (roll input) the Rhino start...

walmis•3/3/24, 8:11 AM

The VP configurator shows the fault at the bottom right of the window, it displays OK when everything's normal. It'd be useful if you post your settings too.

shagratOP•3/3/24, 9:29 AM

Figured it out, I guess, reduced "Spring Gain" to 95% and for whatever reason, "Spring strength proportional Dampening" in the Expert Settings was at 100% (I reduced it to default 25% and upped it to 40% now).
With these settings (see screenshots), it didn't happen anymore.

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harf4ng•3/3/24, 11:43 AM

hi, why is it recommended to have the center value to 2048? What it does if it is not at 2048?

harf4ng•3/3/24, 11:44 AM

My axis are like that

harf4ng•3/3/24, 11:45 AM

so the Y value is like that because I want the stick to be closer to me, but even the X axis is not centered at 2048, but it looks like it is centered

Hharf4ng hi, why is it recommended to have the center value to 2048? What it does if it i...

walmis•3/3/24, 12:13 PM

This notice is to avoid undefined behavior on startup when DIYing the Rhino or replacing belts.

harf4ng•3/3/24, 2:37 PM

What is the max recommended extension length to not wear off the motors too fast?

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[OR] SerGeant•3/3/24, 5:08 PM

hi there,
does TelemFFB have an autostart function or something else? Or a autostart with DCS?

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:30 PM

For it to do something like that I imagine it would need to have a running background service.

I think you can use the skatezilla launcher utility to start it an other software needed, granted I haven't actually used it for that yet myself.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/134493-the-dcs-updater-launcher-gui-utility-version-20-2023/

ED Forums

The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility Version 2.0 (2023+)

Introducing: The DCS Updater / Launcher GUI Utility v2.0 (DULU) LAUNCH - MANAGE - UPDATE - REPAIR - CLEAN Note: This Utility is not Affiliated with Eagle Dynamics, and not responsible for support. LAUNCH: Launch DCS using Multiple Options and Switches. MANAGE: Manage Your Builds & User Profil...

BBob Bushman For it to do something like that I imagine it would need to have a running backg...

Dr. No•3/3/24, 6:42 PM

I created a .ps1 powershell program that's a button box where you can open up all the programs you want if you want I can put that on github from one button. Ill post a pic of it when I get a chance.

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:44 PM

I just keep my dcs programs pinned in the task bar and click in rapid succession
Easy works

Dr. No•3/3/24, 6:46 PM

Oh for me i have like 5 programs i have to open so this helps so much, plus I start it with windows too.
Hah i hear ya though, just might be useful for ya. I was learning powershell for work, but would be better if I made it into C#, no idea how to code that ... But ChatGPT does

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 6:50 PM

I like to keep it simple so really only start telem and configurator now.

smitty•3/3/24, 7:18 PM

configurator doesnt need to remain open for everything to work

Bob Bushman•3/3/24, 7:29 PM

I'm just still tweaking and playing around with it.

DonHo•3/3/24, 9:47 PM

Good Day, I recently purchased a two-motor DIY kit and have somehow managed to misplace the motor wires. I would be grateful to know if these are standard wires and, if so, where they could be purchased here in North America. Alternatively, if those can be purchased individually from VPForce that would be great. Thank you.

DDonHo Good Day, I recently purchased a two-motor DIY kit and have somehow managed to m...

walmis•3/4/24, 7:19 AM

The connectors are JST PH 2 pin - Amazon will definitely will have them

Hammer•3/4/24, 3:10 PM

@walmis quick question, I bought the motor kit from you and made a diy stick from @Subsonic (Protomaker). I've only flown the f-14 in dcs with it and I get a random trim activation either left or right all the way (phantom button activation constant press) sporadically. After a few seconds of fighting it, it goes back to normal. All the wires are good, and settings are fine. Is there a way to refresh the firmware, and reset the motors learned value? This is the only thing I can think is causing an issue, thanks for the help.

HHammer @walmis quick question, I bought the motor kit from you and made a diy stick fro...

walmis•3/4/24, 3:29 PM

This sounds like a known F-14 bug when you change seats with WSO and the trim drifts fully to some direction

walmis•3/4/24, 3:33 PM

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Hammer•3/4/24, 3:42 PM

I am aware of that one. And that one trims full aft slowly.
For my issue I never change seats, and trim slams hard to left or right. ?

HHammer I am aware of that one. And that one trims full aft slowly. For my issue I neve...

walmis•3/4/24, 4:29 PM

Can you show your configuration? Both effect and settings pages

Hammer•3/4/24, 5:34 PM

Sure, I'm put now, will send it asap

Firaga•3/4/24, 8:51 PM

@walmis : Not sure if this is reported already but this issue was today replicated with two Rhino users. A-10C (and apparently also F-5) the DCS in-game control indicator range is shorter in fwd direction compared to aft (picture 1). As a consequence, Rhino is considering the neutral position to be this much fwd. Forces seem to be quite ok but the neutral position is very awkward (picture 2). The correct behavior would be that the Rhino is physically centered in neutral position and allows full aft deflection but with limited (or scaled) fwd deflection. Can we expect a fix for this or any tips for temporary workarounds? Would not want to edit the global profile as this problem exists only for certain modules.

FFiraga @walmis : Not sure if this is reported already but this issue was today replicat...

TheAmazinGreat•3/4/24, 9:16 PM

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Firaga•3/4/24, 9:27 PM

@skyPickle :

If Rhino is here working as intended, did you find any workaround for this issue from dcs side? A-10C does not have those trimmer options in special options tab like F-5.

Wwalmis Can you show your configuration? Both effect and settings pages

Hammer•3/4/24, 11:05 PM

Also for some strange reason I need to have the y axis inverted for normal movement.

FFiraga @skyPickle : ☝️ If Rhino is here working as intended, did you find any workaroun...

Number481•3/4/24, 11:25 PM

Try this https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1200355036279087204

peteg•3/5/24, 12:35 AM

Hi, I’m getting the VPForce set up for the first test in MSFS and I get a left aileron deflection every few seconds whenever the stick is full forward or full aft. Any ideas what the problem would be?

peteg•3/5/24, 12:36 AM

peteg•3/5/24, 12:51 AM

Are there any profiles that are a good starting point for msfs and dcs?

smitty•3/5/24, 1:24 AM

Axes should not be bound in msfs- telemFFB handles it. (Get the wip version)

Ssmitty Axes should not be bound in msfs- telemFFB handles it. (Get the wip version)

peteg•3/5/24, 4:11 AM

Thanks that did it. Works great now!

NNumber481 Try this https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1200...

Firaga•3/5/24, 6:04 AM

This works. Thanks a lot! Would be nice if the configurator detected the module the same way as TelemFFB. However, can live with this just fine.

Lei•3/5/24, 10:32 AM

I encountered a strange issue with MSFS (everything works in DCS): the stick lost all the spring/damping force as soon as I launch TalemFFB. It seems the TalemFFB effect is still on but the configurator shows USB disconnected. If I close the TalemFFB then the stick springs back to center again and can be trimmed as well.

LLei I encountered a strange issue with MSFS (everything works in DCS): the stick los...

Number481•3/5/24, 12:14 PM

what the spring does when you connect TelemFFB to MSFS depends on a great many things. Including:

What type of aircraft is loaded
Whether you are paused/slew mode, in the hangar, or in an active flight and how the pause spring is configured in TelemFFB
Depending on the type of aircraft, whether you are cold and dark, idling on the ground or flying

Under no circumstances will it cause the USB to disconnect however. Unless you are accidentally pushing a configurator profile which changes the USB ID of the device (but that doesn't sound like what is happening).

NNumber481 what the spring does when you connect TelemFFB to MSFS depends on a great many t...

Lei•3/5/24, 12:34 PM

it happened mid flight, when i realize i forgot to launch TelemFFB, so i pause the game, launch TelemFFB, unpause game, all spring force is gone, close TelemFFB in the same flight, spring force is back. Had this issue a few times but will try to reproduce it.

Lei•3/5/24, 12:42 PM

tried again, this time it did not disconnect, but force trim is not working with telemffb openned. (flying in flyininside B206). Forcetrim works without Telemffb

LLei tried again, this time it did not disconnect, but force trim is not working with...

walmis•3/5/24, 12:43 PM

If you're using the Hardware trim feature, then it won't work if the spring force is controlled by the application

walmis•3/5/24, 12:43 PM

You would need to setup force trim in telemFFB itself

LLei tried again, this time it did not disconnect, but force trim is not working with...

Number481•3/5/24, 12:46 PM

walmis is correct

Lei•3/5/24, 12:47 PM

Thx! got it, works now with Forcetrim on in telemFFB. Do i keep the hardware force trim on in configurator? but override trim off? Must admit this bit is still a bit confusing

smitty•3/5/24, 12:49 PM

hardware trim off. btw for "realism", the B206 doesnt have force trim . ive been told it feels like a 70s car power steering, very loose but stays where you put it

Lei•3/5/24, 12:58 PM

is there any point of turn on hardware trim in the configurator then? or its better just to do it in Telem in general?

smitty•3/5/24, 1:03 PM

it's for games not controlled by telemffb, so you could set up any generic game to have the function. everything on the effects tab is for "when telemffb is not running"

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