Could you consider adding ability to tweak the Frequency Limits in your plugin as just changing the

Could you consider adding ability to tweak the Frequency Limits in your plugin as just changing the governors isn't that flexible for me as the powersave governor is conservative for most modern games whereas the performance/schedutil governor is aggressive.

I would just like to set a 2.5 GHz Max Frequency Limit for modern games like I can in Powertools.

Aask me about nap-kins what controller are you using? sadly linux also doesn't play nice with a lot of ...

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[REDACTED]•3/10/24, 12:51 PM

sad thing is that im using a third party controller, and i can tell that it doesnt really play nice with it.

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[REDACTED]•3/10/24, 12:51 PM

i can always try to use it wired though

AAnon9001 Could you consider adding ability to tweak the Frequency Limits in your plugin a...

antheas•3/10/24, 12:52 PM

Not my plugin. @Aru as for that I think it might not be possible

Can you link that tool?

Aantheas Not my plugin. @Aru as for that I think it might not be possible Can you link t...

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 12:53 PM

Not sure what you mean by link it but I think you are referring to the git page if so here it is:https://git.ngni.us/NG-SD-Plugins/PowerTools

git.ngni.us

PowerTools

Steam Deck power tweaks for power users

AAnon9001 Could you consider adding ability to tweak the Frequency Limits in your plugin a...

Aru•3/10/24, 12:55 PM

is this a ROG Ally? if you need cpu boost control, SimpleDeckyTDP does actually support it. You need to change your scaling driver to amd-pstate, not amd-pstate-epp

AAru is this a ROG Ally? if you need cpu boost control, SimpleDeckyTDP does actually ...

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 12:55 PM

Nope I am using LCD Deck.

Aru•3/10/24, 12:56 PM

oh, no idea then. you'll need to use a Deck-specific plugin

AAnon9001 Nope I am using LCD Deck.

antheas•3/10/24, 12:56 PM

Use powertools

antheas•3/10/24, 12:56 PM

It's steam deck only

antheas•3/10/24, 12:57 PM

Also yes

antheas•3/10/24, 12:57 PM

Bazzite uses epp so it might not be possible

antheas•3/10/24, 12:57 PM

Unless you do that change

antheas•3/10/24, 12:57 PM

But the equivalent of boost is setting epp to powersave

antheas•3/10/24, 12:58 PM

But on the SD nobody knows sooo

Aantheas Use powertools

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 12:59 PM

Yeah I am currently using Powertools but I don't like how buggy it is. One annoying issue I found is that the Frequency Limits for CPU and GPU don't persist if game is having Launcher required to start it up. I need to use "Reapply Settings" to get it to work.

Another issue is when using a per game profile the Powertools GPU Frequency Limit doesn't work automatically and I need to manually re-enable it.

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[REDACTED]•3/10/24, 1:00 PM

i have used bazzite for around a day noww

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[REDACTED]•3/10/24, 1:00 PM

its better than windows imo

AAnon9001 Yeah I am currently using Powertools but I don't like how buggy it is. One annoy...

antheas•3/10/24, 1:02 PM

whats wrong with using the built in steam sliders?

Aantheas whats wrong with using the built in steam sliders?

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:04 PM

There is no way to directly limit CPU clocks using the steam sliders and Manual GPU Clock stops working if I put the device to sleep(This might be due to Powertools as another person reported that this setting worked even after sleep for them and they didn't have Powertools installed).

AAnon9001 There is no way to directly limit CPU clocks using the steam sliders and Manual ...

antheas•3/10/24, 1:04 PM

you can immitate that by boosting the gpu

antheas•3/10/24, 1:05 PM

thats why this setting is there

antheas•3/10/24, 1:05 PM

theres no reason to touch cpu clocks on the sd

antheas•3/10/24, 1:05 PM

theoretically, i guess

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:07 PM

Yeah I tried to indirectly limit CPU clocks by using Manual GPU Clock and TDP Limiter together but I find I needed to set the TDP Limiter to 4 watts along with Manual GPU Clock set to 800 MHz for the CPU to not draw too much power.

AAnon9001 Yeah I am currently using Powertools but I don't like how buggy it is. One annoy...

Aru•3/10/24, 1:10 PM

sounds like you need to report this to the plugin dev

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:11 PM

Already reported the first issue to them but as for the second there is already a tracker for that issue so I didn't report it to him.

Aantheas theres no reason to touch cpu clocks on the sd

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:14 PM

Actually there are many games which are having the issue of CPU consuming too much power. From my experience its primarily old CPU intensive games where the issue pops up but others have reported the same even in modern games like Death Stranding and Hades:https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/virka3/games_where_the_cpu_uses_too_much_power/

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antheas•3/10/24, 1:15 PM

boosting the gpu clock does not work?

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:16 PM

Its really not as efficient as directly manipulating the CPU clocks as you need to set the TDP Limiter pretty low at 4 watts in order for the CPU to not consume too much power with a Manual GPU Clock of 800 MHz.

antheas•3/10/24, 1:17 PM

welll pull it to 4w then whats the problem

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:18 PM

That's pretty low power ceiling. Sure you can play ancient games with it but any modern game the TDP Limit is too low.

antheas•3/10/24, 1:19 PM

so why cant you push the gpu clock again?

antheas•3/10/24, 1:19 PM

why keep it at 800hz?

Aru•3/10/24, 1:20 PM

I'm waiting on this for CPU clock management on non-Deck devices
https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Core-Perf-Boost-Linux

AMD Core Performance Boost Patches Posted For P-State Linux Driver

While not quite as exciting as yesterday's AMD XDNA driver publishing for Ryzen AI on Linux, a notable patch series out of AMD today on the Linux front is enabling AMD Core Performance Boost controls within their P-State CPU frequency scaling driver.

Anon9001OP•3/10/24, 1:21 PM

Thats the sweet spot for most games. You can set it higher but still it's not as good as directly limiting the CPU clocks. They should just allow people to cap the power limit of the CPU of Deck rather than the CPU+GPU as that would eliminate this problem.

SSprikk Do i need a virtual monitor installed in windows perhaps? I've used https://gith...

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:21 PM

yes you need the gpu to have a monitor output, like a ghost hdmi/displayport adapter

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:22 PM

Got it, running with the new HDR fork of IDD displaydriver, works great! Thanks for all your help @HikariKnight !

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:22 PM

np!

SSprikk Got it, running with the new HDR fork of IDD displaydriver, works great! Thanks ...

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:22 PM

so you managed to get an output then?

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:23 PM

Yeah

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:24 PM

Think something is wrong with how the mouse is bound though, its very hard to use

SSprikk Think something is wrong with how the mouse is bound though, its very hard to us...

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:25 PM

remove the tablet device and add usb mouse and keyboard

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:26 PM

I did, but the ps/2 mouse and keyboard is added back automatically, i have added the virtio keyboard and mouse though

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:26 PM

i didnt say remove the ps2 mouse and keyboard

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:27 PM

those are required for the vm to work

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:27 PM

Ah makes sense then

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:27 PM

just remove the tablet device then if it is there

HikariKnight•3/10/24, 1:27 PM

once thats removed, shut down the vm and start it again then the mouse and keyboard should work better through looking glass

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:28 PM

I had removed the tablet device already, just saw it was set to 30hz, much better now i set it to 120

Sprikk•3/10/24, 1:29 PM

Still a bit weird on the desktop but probably better in game, remember the same when using moonlight

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