Beeping indicates that the mainboard is still working. Do the motors anti cogging work when you plug

Beeping indicates that the mainboard is still working. Do the motors anti cogging work when you plug in the power?
Is it connected to the mainboard or via hub?

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walmisOP•3/17/24, 1:01 PM

Looks like base communicates with the adapter OK, maybe your grip connector is not fully inserted?

Wwalmis Beeping indicates that the mainboard is still working. Do the motors anti coggin...

Glaive(Rikk)•3/17/24, 1:07 PM

I assume you mean by anti cogging that it's smooth rather than the feeling of bumps as you move the stick? if so then yes thats working.
It was through a hub but have tried it directly with the same results

GGlaive(Rikk)I assume you mean by anti cogging that it's smooth rather than the feeling of bu...

walmisOP•3/17/24, 1:11 PM

Probably a good idea to try a different usb cable if you haven't done so already, before digging any deeper

Wwalmis Probably a good idea to try a different usb cable if you haven't done so already...

Glaive(Rikk)•3/17/24, 1:16 PM

Was just in the process of doing that and yep, somehow the cable is faulty....... Oh well catastophy averted

Pikas62•3/17/24, 3:37 PM

OK, I reconnect the adapter with the stick and report back

Pikas62•3/17/24, 3:40 PM

ok I will realign the arrow

Broadway•3/17/24, 5:24 PM

too exited to re read everything , but will start .....

Just built a DIY Rhino finished about an hour ago , all working in VPC mounted VKB via adaptor , joystick buttons all working , played with the TelemFFB configuration files and it updated the IL2 start up file BUT .... i start IL2 , i go to settings , it sees JOYSTICK 10 as the Rhino , and by moving the stick it records roll as X , pitch as Y , but when i try and fly i get no response on either axis in the plane . Tried a reboot , restarting game and stick , and ideas ,

Broadway•3/17/24, 5:25 PM

Device Firmware: v1.0.16

BBroadway too exited to re read everything , but will start ..... Just built a DIY Rh...

Number481•3/17/24, 5:39 PM

I know IL2 has issues when too many USB devices are connected.. that can manifest in different ways. Sounds like you have a lot of devices (joystick 10). Try disconnecting some thing or two and see if it registers while in the aircraft. Some folks also use HID Hide.

Also make sure you explicitly enable FFB in the IL2 input device settings, though this won't cause what you are seeing

Lastly, you mention TelemFFB config files.. you're probably using the "stable release" version... you'll want to grab the release version as it is much more feature rich (and no pesky text config files). Check the pinned messages in #VPforce-TelemFFB for a link to the downloads page.

Broadway•3/17/24, 5:50 PM

thanks , i did wonder about the Joystick 10 issue , i have a few that i would like to keep

1- VKB stick

Slaw Pedals
3 Throttle 1
4 Throttle 2
5&6 2x button boxes
7 The RHINO

also how should windows USB controllers see the Rhino , anything i need to do , or delete there ?

And yes i have stable Telem FFB , will latest release

Number481•3/17/24, 6:15 PM

You don't need or want to do anything in the windows usb controller, all calibration and any necessecary axis inversions should be done through the configurator.

I can't really give you any further tips on the (potential) HID device count issue. I've never run into the issue myself, but I know many have. A lot of people end up using HidHide (https://github.com/nefarius/HidHide) to mask certain peripherals that are not needed from being seein by IL2 so they don't have to disconnect anything.

I'd test the theory out before going down that path though. Disconnect a couple devices and try IL2 again and see if it sees the Rhino device properly during flight.

legwan10•3/17/24, 7:15 PM

After 1-2min of intense flying, like dogfight, fan starting. I suppose it's for cooling down motors. But is it normal the motors getting warm that quick? Power knob is set on about 50-60%.

AndyHill•3/17/24, 7:20 PM

I'm not sure but sounds pretty quick for 50-60%

NNumber481 You don't need or want to do anything in the windows usb controller, all calibra...

Broadway•3/17/24, 7:26 PM

Thanks,I think i ve totally screwed up IL2 and controller setting as no longer even sees the rhino, i m going to reinstall IL2 then plug in only a few controllers and take it from there. Other than VPC is there any other way of checking all is working ok , from a windows / software perspective? Other sims i have but not tested are MSFS and DCS

AndyHill•3/17/24, 7:28 PM

I suggest trying to reduce the number of controllers before reinstalling

AndyHill•3/17/24, 7:28 PM

Il-2 controller setup is really funky stuff

legwan10•3/17/24, 7:57 PM

What's the correct temp?

AndyHill•3/17/24, 8:11 PM

I don't know if there is a correct temp as such, it just sounds like pretty fast heating for 50-60% power

smitty•3/17/24, 9:07 PM

another trick might be to use joystick gremlin and combine your pedals and switch boxes into a single "device" and then hidhide the real ones

Wwalmis The first issue is that you cleared the settings to board defaults, that include...

Knuck👨✈•3/17/24, 11:14 PM

How do I reimport that file into configurator? I can see it in the configs folder

TrigaNZ•3/17/24, 11:19 PM

Open configurator, click 'Import' browse to folder, select.

TrigaNZ•3/17/24, 11:23 PM

Make your changes, click 'Apply' test, make changes 'Apply" etc, then Store (save)

Panny•3/18/24, 7:13 AM

I started getting this issue, where the stick doesn't seem to be able to start. I get this sound effect of it starting up and then shutting down
I originally had the cable go through a hub, it worked fine, and then stopped doing so. I've tried direct to my computer and get the same issue regardless

PPanny I started getting this issue, where the stick doesn't seem to be able to start. ...

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:15 AM

This sound is when motors are not receiving power

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:17 AM

Try opening the VP configurator app and see what's the status

Wwalmis This sound is when motors are not receiving power

Panny•3/18/24, 7:18 AM

I double checked, but the ac adaptor is plugged in as well as I can make it. The application itself shows the USB to be disconnected, with both motors offline

Panny•3/18/24, 7:19 AM

I was starting to get an issue yesterday where the stick was randomly connecting/disconnecting

Panny•3/18/24, 7:20 AM

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:20 AM

Hmm, try maybe another cable

Panny•3/18/24, 7:20 AM

I don't have another usb cable of this sort to my knowledge?

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:20 AM

Yesterday was a similar issue, starting to wonder if there's a bad batch of USB cables

Panny•3/18/24, 7:22 AM

Is it this type of cable?
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/usb-cables/1828831?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CFS_UK_EN_RS+PRO_PO4700199950-_-Cable+%26+Wires-_-1828831&matchtype=&pla-409358540124&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwzN-vBhAkEiwAYiO7oDczn2KCQa4Ptk9Ci5t_57W4PJOYx4XrJdnmTaMwjjruXpKbHH7UvxoC-h0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:23 AM

yeah, it's a common printer cable

walmisOP•3/18/24, 7:25 AM

Also some other things to try: reboot, plug into the back connector of the PC

Panny•3/18/24, 7:25 AM

OK I'll order a new one. Just a bit annoyed this occurred a week into getting the base. Yeah I've already tried that method I'm afraid

Skood•3/18/24, 10:12 AM

Are there any plans to update the VKB adaptor for rev C grips. I’m not even sure you can buy grips with rev B connectors anymore.

Broadway•3/18/24, 10:25 AM

il2

Gary O•3/18/24, 3:04 PM

Just want to verify: The VKB adaptor fits the MKIII grips and not the MKIV?

GGary O Just want to verify: The VKB adaptor fits the MKIII grips and not the MKIV?

walmisOP•3/18/24, 3:05 PM

Yeah

Gary O•3/18/24, 3:05 PM

Thanks!

Broadway•3/18/24, 3:46 PM

i am really struggling to get the DIY build working, from a software standpoint , i posted about IL2 but disregard that as it may be an excess controller issue that i need to delve into further. I thought i would try DCS , so i v red then reread the manual , i m just looking for simple FFB and axis assigment to prove my stick works . Whree i ve got to

1 In VPC i ve set up a spring , tried end stops and damper, i m getting readouts on all parameters from the right hand side display, X through to Vbus all show dynaimc returns based on stick movement . Bottom right shows Motro X and Y and USB as OK asnd connected . Device Firmware reads 1.0.16 and debug shows i can save and write serttings to memory . The stick feels limp , no real force needed to move it , which is sort of confimed on the X and Y currents which as pulling <0.5 amp . I assume all this is normal

2 Telem FFB (now using latrest WIP version) , ive selected DCS in the Sim setting section , and i get a yellow pause "Sim enabled waiting for data , i launch DCS from Steam , selected multithread, go to settings FFB is enabled , but yellow box does not change

From log file
hid.HIDException:
ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-03-18 15:49:19.669 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
File "hid.py", line 163, in read
File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.

Number481•3/18/24, 3:50 PM

With no sim running, do you get the expected results from your joystick? Spring/damper/ whatever you have set up in configurator?

Broadway•3/18/24, 3:50 PM

no i did breifly but in VPC i get "no feeling"

BBroadway i am really struggling to get the DIY build working, from a software standpoint...

Number481•3/18/24, 3:50 PM

What is your device PID set to in configurator ?

Number481•3/18/24, 3:51 PM

Post screenshots of your configurator settings and effects pages.

Broadway•3/18/24, 3:51 PM

USB PID = 2055

Broadway•3/18/24, 3:52 PM

Broadway•3/18/24, 3:52 PM

Number481•3/18/24, 4:00 PM

ignoring the telemffb issue for the time being... You don't have a pot connected to port 1, so I would set the Port-1 seting to disabled. Your pot on port2 is turned down pretty far, and is connected to damper, so that will be extra weak.

Your periodic effects LPF is set to %0..., so once we do get TelemFFB working, none of the rumble effects will do anything. I suggest loading the Rino default profile thats in the configs directory of your configurator install, redo your calibration and start from there.

Number481•3/18/24, 4:02 PM

also be aware that when you launch DCS, it will send a reset to all FFB devices, so until you load into an aircraft, everything will go limp.

Beeping indicates that the mainboard is still working. Do the motors anti cogging work when you plug

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