I am looking at Vivaldi now and I can see that it's definitely the original opera creators, but reme

I am looking at Vivaldi now and I can see that it's definitely the original opera creators, but remember opera was built on lies, it is good now yes but it used to ship with hidden adware viruses and hook itself on installs if you installed a program, opera had a shady and honestly pretty bad beginning and it was slower than all of the competition.

Vivaldi being the original creators is therefore extremely worrying for me

But also the more a browser says it is adfree and tracker free the more I struggle to trust it, how are they earning their money?

VValerie box64 which is x86 to ARM and then WINE

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:44 AM

Point is, playtron taken a box64 video and tried to claim it was their own

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:45 AM

https://youtu.be/oBze2QQwXcg

YouTubeKirt McMaster

PRYSM: Playtron X86 to ARM engine: Witcher 3 - RM 9 Pro+ Sd 8 Gen ...

PRYSM: Playtron ARM engine

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:45 AM

https://youtu.be/CH0E0Un2NPY

YouTubeIgnorant Slave

Red Magic 9 Pro+ /The Witcher 3 v4.04 (next-gen) /Box64 + Wine 9.1 ...

Ram: 16GB + 8GB swap

Resolution: 960x540

Dynarec settings:
- BOX64_DYNAREC_BIGBLOCK=0
- BOX64_DYNAREC_STRONGMEM=1
- BOX64_DYNAREC_X87DOUBLE=0
- BOX64_DYNAREC_FASTNAN=0
- BOX64_DYNAREC_SAFEFLAGS=0
- BOX64_DYNAREC_CALLRET=0

WINEESYNC=1 (no root)

CPU Affinity: 2-7

Driver: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YsSD09CdPEgHkh2_MtuHZrjBJutKykR9/view?u...

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:46 AM

Disappointing start

VValerie Point is, playtron taken a box64 video and tried to claim it was their own 🙄

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:47 AM

And they showed off their os which just looked a lot like a modified playnite theme, I'd say to be wary of them, remember that major tech news outlets also reported on bitconnect being the real deal.

ZZombrexo And they showed off their os which just looked a lot like a modified playnite th...

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:52 AM

There's messages of the founder/CEO asking for WINE/Proton devs in the ChimeraOS discord from over a year ago. I think playtron as a product exists, dunno why they chose to steal this though...

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:54 AM

Tbh, playtron simply scares me, I know I am hating far too much than reasonable, I just believe that Linux should always be open source, based on the fact that playtron has people on a payroll is scary as that may indicate that playtron will be closed source, and the fact that the founder has connections in meta is also scary.

VValerie There's messages of the founder/CEO asking for WINE/Proton devs in the ChimeraOS...

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:54 AM

And the fact that they show off these fake demo videos is also scary.

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:55 AM

Feels very much like bitconnect all over again.

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:55 AM

There's a video of a demo on the legion go

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:55 AM

There is just too many red flags for my autistic brain.

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:55 AM

And the verge writer did install it on their deck

Valerie•3/19/24, 9:56 AM

They're doing demos at GDC tomorrow

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:58 AM

As I said I may be hating too much, but that one os picture being taken straight from playnite (or at least looking like it) and this video being a stolen video, and the founder having people on a higher than minimum wage payroll is just scary and shady to me.

But I guess we will wait and see.

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

And why are companies investing into it?

There must be monitary gain in order for so much money being invested.

antheas•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

I second vivaldi I like it

antheas•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

Even though it's slow

VValerie Point is, playtron taken a box64 video and tried to claim it was their own 🙄

antheas•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

It is

antheas•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

They hired the dude last summer

antheas•3/19/24, 9:59 AM

Lmao

Aantheas They hired the dude last summer

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:00 AM

The dude who posted that video said they reported playtrons upload in the comments?

antheas•3/19/24, 10:00 AM

Ok maybe they borrowed the video dunno. But box64 dev is on playthingy payroll

Aantheas Ok maybe they borrowed the video dunno. But box64 dev is on playthingy payroll

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:01 AM

Oh yeah I'm not claiming they stole from box64

antheas•3/19/24, 10:01 AM

As far as I know

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:01 AM

They stole a video featuring box64, not running on playtron, and claimed it was running on playtron.

antheas•3/19/24, 10:02 AM

maybe they need to get a video crew dunno

antheas•3/19/24, 10:03 AM

But at least it's their tech

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:03 AM

I mean the solution to that is not stealing random yt videos lol

Aantheas But at least it's their tech

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:03 AM

I mean, it's not on their OS, which is the main product.

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:03 AM

If they have a working box64 implementation, they could record their own video lol

antheas•3/19/24, 10:03 AM

The title of the vid says engine soooo. But anyway

VValerie I mean, it's not on their OS, which is the main product.

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:04 AM

Red flags OOOoooOoOOOoo

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

Maybe I am too quick too judge maybe the base of playtron is box64

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

And they just made a skin

antheas•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

It's not, but they want 5G Android tablets for India or sth

Aantheas The title of the vid says engine soooo. But anyway

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

The video isn't the playtron x86 to ARM engine though. It's a standard box64 setup. I understand box64 powers that engine, but stealing a video and claiming it is that engine is now how you market something truthfully.

antheas•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

Box64 is the engine

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:05 AM

I said that

Aantheas It's not, but they want 5G Android tablets for India or sth

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:06 AM

That sounds exactly like the kind of promises these crypto scam companies make

antheas•3/19/24, 10:07 AM

All I can say is good luck to them

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:07 AM

Remember that safemoon was going to bring internet to the countries in Africa?

Aantheas All I can say is good luck to them

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:09 AM

I'm not saying "This is the downfall of Playtron!" but starting off with the first big media coverage you get with an uncredited video which isn't running 100% on your platform is not how you fain trust with the community you're trying to build. I do hope Playtron does well (And hopefully does well in a way that benefits the FOSS community) but antics like this are how you get people to instantly have distrust in you.

antheas•3/19/24, 10:11 AM

I think you might be overthinking things a bit. Although yes startup culture etc

Valerie•3/19/24, 10:11 AM

I don't think this is a crazy thing to find a bit suspicious

antheas•3/19/24, 10:11 AM

I have the same reservations though

VValerie I'm not saying "This is the downfall of Playtron!" but starting off with the fir...

ZombrexoOP•3/19/24, 10:11 AM

I am good example in distrust gained against them