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j0rge
layering steam doesn't really work anyway it's too complicated
layering steam doesn
't really work anyway it
's too complicated
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J
j0rge
layering steam doesn't really work anyway it's too complicated
N
Noel
•
3/27/24, 2:10 AM
It
's sooooo fun
/s
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:10 AM
I honestly thought steam is layered
.
.
. or am I getting things wrong
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:10 AM
it
's on the image
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:10 AM
it
's on the image not layered
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:11 AM
we should probably start calling it
local layered
local layered
and
on the image
on the image
from now on actually
J
j0rge
it's on the image not layered
N
Noel
•
3/27/24, 2:11 AM
I
'm very tired and wasn
't thinking lol
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:11 AM
I noticed the coreos people starting to specifically say
"local layerd
"
J
j0rge
we should probably start calling it `local layered` and `on the image` from now ...
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:11 AM
can I read more about this
? I think I
'm confused
N
Noel
I'm very tired and wasn't thinking lol
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:11 AM
but you
're free tho
. of the flatpaks
.
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:12 AM
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/add-layered/
Fedora Docs
Adding Layered Packages
Learn more about Fedora Linux
, the Fedora Project
& the Fedora Community
.
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:12 AM
it
's when you want something at the OS level but it
's not on the image
, you can rpm
-ostree install it
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:13 AM
but rpm
-ostree layered apps still have full system access
, right
?
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:13 AM
yeah
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:13 AM
the most popular is probably VPN software
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:13 AM
you need to layer that
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:14 AM
i kinda don
't want to layer proprietary software
I know steam is cool and the good guy
.
.
. but maby not the apps installed
.
.
.
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:14 AM
(sorry idk anything
)
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:14 AM
yeah I roll with the flatpak
, it
's fine
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:14 AM
so I could just remove the layer on bazzite
, right
?
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:15 AM
no
, that
's why we say it
's on the image
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:15 AM
what
's on there stays on there
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:15 AM
oh sorry
T
tryhardsoccermomswag
•
3/27/24, 2:15 AM
it
's an OCI limitation
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:15 AM
that
's why we start from base layers and build from the bottom up
J
j0rge
OP
•
3/27/24, 2:16 AM
the smaller the image the better
, so we try to keep important things in there
, and things like apps and stuff go in flatpaks and containers
N
Noel
•
3/27/24, 2:16 AM
Maybe my next project will be splitting out the steam layer from Bazzite
.
N
Noel
•
3/27/24, 2:16 AM
So other folks can layer easily
.
N
Noel
•
3/27/24, 2:16 AM
Also Bazzite doesn
't fail to build just because the steam layer failed
.
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:17 AM
Okay but I know I will be a ublue user for sure
!
I just don
't know what image atm
.
Bazzite GNOME or Bluefin
I mean I
'm a gamer
.
.
.
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:17 AM
Follow Kyle
's footsteps
.
.
.
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:20 AM
We have Steam on the image because the flatpak is not full featured
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:20 AM
You won
't have steam input support for wayland
, you won
't have VR support
, you won
't have HDR support
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:21 AM
Distrobox has some of these limitations
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:21 AM
It also wouldn
't work for game mode if you use an image with that
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:22 AM
Thanks
.
Lol really
? I got gamemode installed and just add the launch option gamemoderun
%command
%
thats how I did it on other distros
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:22 AM
Gamemode being the session
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:22 AM
Not the nested compositor
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:22 AM
That works
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:22 AM
Oh
.
. do you actually use gamemode on your desktop
?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:23 AM
A lot of people do
, I don
't
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:23 AM
It does have benefits since there
's no desktop environment running in the background
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:23 AM
But my system is kind of beyond that
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:23 AM
But I
'm in the same boat
, I odon
't like it on my desktop PC
, because I
'm a multitasker
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:24 AM
Yeah so you can just pick an image that doesn
't have that
, you
're still getting HDR on the next KDE and Wayland steam input
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:24 AM
I
'm honestly a GNOME enjoyer now
^
^
Just because everything looks consistent and I never encountered any visual glitches or bugs
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:25 AM
Also the flatpak is going to use flatpak Mesa
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:25 AM
So you get no enhancements we make
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:25 AM
Or any of Valve
's patches
K
Kid
•
3/27/24, 2:25 AM
Oh
.
. I thought that is a bonus
, because the flatpak uses mesa 24
K
Kyle Gospo
•
3/27/24, 2:25 AM
They will bunny hop
, our 23 had a lot of 24 patches in it
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