we should probably start calling it `local layered` and `on the image` from now on actually
we should probably start calling it
local layered and on the image from now on actually
NI'm very tired and wasn't thinking lol
JI noticed the coreos people starting to specifically say "local layerd"
Kcan I read more about this? I think I'm confused
Jbut you're free tho. of the flatpaks.
JFedora Docs
Learn more about Fedora Linux, the Fedora Project & the Fedora Community.
Jit's when you want something at the OS level but it's not on the image, you can rpm-ostree install it
Kbut rpm-ostree layered apps still have full system access, right?
Jyeah
Jthe most popular is probably VPN software
Jyou need to layer that
Ki kinda don't want to layer proprietary software
I know steam is cool and the good guy ... but maby not the apps installed . . .
I know steam is cool and the good guy ... but maby not the apps installed . . .
K(sorry idk anything)
Jyeah I roll with the flatpak, it's fine
Kso I could just remove the layer on bazzite, right?
Jno, that's why we say it's on the image
Jwhat's on there stays on there
Koh sorry
Tit's an OCI limitation
Jthat's why we start from base layers and build from the bottom up
Jthe smaller the image the better, so we try to keep important things in there, and things like apps and stuff go in flatpaks and containers
NMaybe my next project will be splitting out the steam layer from Bazzite.
NSo other folks can layer easily.
NAlso Bazzite doesn't fail to build just because the steam layer failed.
KOkay but I know I will be a ublue user for sure!
I just don't know what image atm.
Bazzite GNOME or Bluefin
I mean I'm a gamer ...
I just don't know what image atm.
Bazzite GNOME or Bluefin
I mean I'm a gamer ...
KFollow Kyle's footsteps ...
KWe have Steam on the image because the flatpak is not full featured
KYou won't have steam input support for wayland, you won't have VR support, you won't have HDR support
KDistrobox has some of these limitations
KIt also wouldn't work for game mode if you use an image with that
KThanks.
Lol really? I got gamemode installed and just add the launch option gamemoderun %command%
thats how I did it on other distros
Lol really? I got gamemode installed and just add the launch option gamemoderun %command%
thats how I did it on other distros
KGamemode being the session
KNot the nested compositor
KThat works
KOh.. do you actually use gamemode on your desktop?
KA lot of people do, I don't
KIt does have benefits since there's no desktop environment running in the background
KBut my system is kind of beyond that
KBut I'm in the same boat, I odon't like it on my desktop PC, because I'm a multitasker
KYeah so you can just pick an image that doesn't have that, you're still getting HDR on the next KDE and Wayland steam input
KI'm honestly a GNOME enjoyer now ^^
Just because everything looks consistent and I never encountered any visual glitches or bugs
Just because everything looks consistent and I never encountered any visual glitches or bugs
KAlso the flatpak is going to use flatpak Mesa
KSo you get no enhancements we make
KOr any of Valve's patches
KOh.. I thought that is a bonus, because the flatpak uses mesa 24
KThey will bunny hop, our 23 had a lot of 24 patches in it
KAnd their 24 is still going to be missing valve's patches
Kalright .. you sold me on bazzite 
K@Kyle Gospo I will move now!
But I want a completely fresh system, is it possible to just back up my flatpkas and paste them in my new bazzite install?
or how would you tackle this?
But I want a completely fresh system, is it possible to just back up my flatpkas and paste them in my new bazzite install?
or how would you tackle this?
Jwhat am I missing out on?
KValve's patches center around game fixes and frame timing in supported compositors
