Got the rhino working well in MSFS for the fixed wing aircraft like the Comanche - however seem to h

Got the rhino working well in MSFS for the fixed wing aircraft like the Comanche - however seem to have some issues with the helicopters (mainly fly the cowen sim ones) - seem to have it all setup correctly but from the start of the flights getting the sim running for a second then it pauses every few seconds (in the telem software its showing as a green light then pause symbol for a split second) makes the sim unplayable - any idea how to fix it?

Mmac22443506 Got the rhino working well in MSFS for the fixed wing aircraft like the Comanche...

Number481•4/4/24, 7:57 PM

you can try increasing the telemetry timeout value in the system settings dialog.

If it is flip/flopping in and out of a "paused' state, that almost certainly means that the incoming telemetry interval is exceeding the default 200ms value periodically. The telemetry is recieved and processed after every simulation frame, which is equivalent to your frame rate.

There would be no harm, for example, in setting the value to 400ms

mac22443506OP•4/4/24, 8:10 PM

Yes definite flip flop but seems to run for 2 seconds then pauses for about 1/2 second - strangely only had the issue with the cowen sim helicopters - everything else seems to work ok (initially thought it was a problem with the in game helicopter assists which I switched off)

Number481•4/4/24, 8:13 PM

if your framerate is noticeably lower with the Cowen, then that could explain it. If increasing the telemetry timeout doesn't help (or if you have to increase it an unreasonable amount), but your framerate doesn't reflect any issue... then I would have to point at the helicopter being the problem (I don't have any of the Cowen heli's but I'm sure others do, and I haven't heard of any known issues as of yet).

mac22443506OP•4/4/24, 8:34 PM

Actually don’t think it’s a frame rate issue as the pauses are (I think) not accompanied by any kind of fps drop (in fact getting a higher fps on some of the Cowan helicopter) my system is based around a 4090….also only seem to get the issue with rhino connected and the telem software running - have the axis being taken care of by telem (box ticked) - but do I actually need to clear the axis binds in game ?- the issue seems also to be accompanied by the FFB effects and spring centre and force trim acting randomly…..

Mmac22443506 Actually don’t think it’s a frame rate issue as the pauses are (I think) not acc...

Number481•4/4/24, 8:49 PM

If you have axis control enabled in TelemFFB you must unbind them in Msfs.

Number481•4/4/24, 8:53 PM

Though that will not cause any sort of timeout issues. It would only cause the control inputs to be fighting eachother.

FFulcrum hey guys does the Rhino work with MechWarrior 5?

Spelljammer1•4/5/24, 1:45 PM

if you are still searching for this option for Mechwarrior, I've found that the open source solution SpaceMonkey offers telemetry data from Mechwarrior 5. So hypothetically you could get more out of the Rhino by combining that with TelemFFB.

Spelljammer1•4/5/24, 1:47 PM

Good question actually: can TelemFFB interface with the telemetry data from SpaceMonkeyTP?

Spelljammer1•4/5/24, 2:13 PM

https://github.com/PHARTGAMES/SpaceMonkey

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GitHub - PHARTGAMES/SpaceMonkey

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sepruda (GMT +2)•4/5/24, 5:22 PM

So just had my Rhino for a few days and already the threads are going. Are they plastic? I might have put on my Virpil extension on a bit crooked to start with and now I can't tighten anything to it. I'm a little disappointed in the build quality of that tbh, and of course seriously bummed that I can't use it. Is there anyway to replace it? Preferably with a harder material..

Skood•4/5/24, 5:53 PM

I think there was mention of an aluminium thread adapter being available soon but that doesn’t look good.

walmis•4/5/24, 6:31 PM

That's a bummer, I'll mail you a replacement on Monday. It's also available as .stl to 3d print in the #

knowledge-base
I might add it's not a common issue, but cross threading forcefully is a sure way to ruin it.

Wwalmis That's a bummer, I'll mail you a replacement on Monday. It's also available as ....

sepruda (GMT +2)•4/5/24, 7:45 PM

Thank you! That is most excellent of you

sepruda (GMT +2)•4/5/24, 8:55 PM

Why is my virtual center so much forward? I've almost no travel forward and too much back? I have calibrated and I'm using a physical limiter.

Ssepruda (GMT +2)Why is my virtual center so much forward? I've almost no travel forward and too ...

TheAmazinGreat•4/5/24, 9:22 PM

Is this in game?

sepruda (GMT +2)•4/5/24, 9:25 PM

Now I'm in my F14 and I see it's much closer to center after trim.

sepruda (GMT +2)•4/5/24, 9:34 PM

Still it would be nice if I could set the initial center, it's a bit to far away from me than I prefer

Ssepruda (GMT +2)Still it would be nice if I could set the initial center, it's a bit to far away...

almightydan•4/6/24, 12:21 AM

I might be wrong here.. but dependeing on which module you´re in and how the ffb is modeled in that module you may have encountered a very realistic behaviour when the weight of the rudders is making them "hang", which would result in what you describe. How does it behave in flight? When you have airspeed and air flowing over the surfaces and pushing them to a more central position?

Aalmightydan I might be wrong here.. but dependeing on which module you´re in and how the ffb...

sepruda (GMT +2)•4/6/24, 12:22 PM

I think you're right. It moves around when flying and trimming. Such an awesome experience.

Ssepruda (GMT +2)Why is my virtual center so much forward? I've almost no travel forward and too ...

Knuck👨✈•4/6/24, 1:22 PM

I have this same issue in the A-10, and it doesn’t get better with speed…..I know I know! lol. I’ve tried trimming it to centre then saving in settings in configurater but it seems to default to a very far forward stick position in game. Fwiw, most control surfaces are balanced in one form or another so there is no ‘hang” as someone mentioned. If you look at most aircraft, flight controls are neutral.

Stains•4/6/24, 1:54 PM

The A-10 stick has like twice as much backward (pitch up) movement as forward. Bind a normal spring joystick and watch the elevators in F2 view. This is correct behavior

wolfman59#6013•4/6/24, 2:41 PM

Hello everyone,
Do any of you have the STL files of the main gimbal like the Walmis one to integrate a 2020 profiled aluminum tube for the stick?

FEVER 1-2 | FZG_Flav•4/6/24, 3:26 PM

Hello, I just received this great base!

Unfortunately, I'm disgusted because it's already damaged. I think it's from shipping, but the box and packaging were great.
On the whole it's not a problem, I'll fix it another way.

on the other hand, where I'm really annoyed is that, unfortunately, it ruined the spinning...my fault...although metal versus resin...metal wins.

can i order another one on the site? how can i do that?

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walmis•4/6/24, 3:43 PM

Uh, that was quite a drop

Fill out the http://order.vpforce.eu form, I'll send free replacements under warranty.

Bozo VFA-86•4/6/24, 6:22 PM

how can i get all my realsimulator buttons to work? i have selected the realsimulator in the dropdown but i am not getting full functionality...i wonder if the different firmwares of the grip play a role?

Wwalmis Uh, that was quite a drop 😕 Fill out the http://order.vpforce.eu form, I'll sen...

FEVER 1-2 | FZG_Flav•4/6/24, 7:51 PM

very appreciate

SStains The A-10 stick has like twice as much backward (pitch up) movement as forward. B...

Knuck👨✈•4/6/24, 10:47 PM

Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and my previous base (Winwing) didn’t require any forward stick force. By that I mean I have to physically push the stick forward the entire time, let go and it will pitch up and stall, and no, trim doesn’t help

KKnuck👨✈Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and m...

Number481•4/6/24, 11:31 PM

Both the A-10 and the F-14 have a forward bias to the center position of the stick with FFB. This is probably fine for a desktop joystick like the sidewinder, and results in the forward and rearward travel of the joystick matching the asymmetric travel of the IRL control surfaces... but it does not translate well to a center mounted stick with an extenstion.

Most people have gotten around this by setting up asymmetric axis scaling in configurator with software endstops. This for example will bring your stick closer to physical center in the A10 and implement a software endstop on the forward side that more or less matches the asymmetry of the IRL stick.

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1200355036279087204

P.S. - if you’ve enabled “sticky” spring to try to force your stick into the center position, this will likely be the reason for the constant up elevator and lack of trimming you are seeing.

NNumber481 Both the A-10 and the F-14 have a forward bias to the center position of the sti...

Knuck👨✈•4/7/24, 3:51 AM

I’ll try that, thank you very much mate

Wwalmis Uh, that was quite a drop 😕 Fill out the http://order.vpforce.eu form, I'll sen...

wolfman59#6013•4/7/24, 9:39 AM

Hello Walmis,
already thank you for the diy kit which arrived safely, I have a question, what is the length of the mettalic bar at the level of the gimbals for the stick?

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 6:04 AM

Hi. Any suggestions on why my VKB adapter is not working? The wiring seems ok, but my VKB blackbox(orange) is blinking red. Tried kg12 and TM a10/f16 grips - no luck, but both work on the base if I flash the blackbox with a correct firmware.

walmis•4/8/24, 6:27 AM

You can try verifying the wiring, by plugging the grip on the adapter, and with a multimeter in diode test mode, touching the red probe to GND and testing 3.3V/Signal with a black probe. If it reads

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it might be a wiring issue, else it's probably a firmware/configuration issue.

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 8:22 AM

The shield wire - should it be connected to anything on the adapter’s end? I can only see 5kOhm between Signal and Gnd on the grip itself, and once I put it on the adapter it becomes ~18kOhm if I check on the connector. The cable looks ok, I also see the +3.3V and some 2.7V on Signal at the adapter if connected to a black box.

VVitalii Muravytskyi The shield wire - should it be connected to anything on the adapter’s end? I can...

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 9:34 AM

Ok, looks like I had two problems))
1. VKB mentions that you can connect your stick directly to a blackbox, but nothing about disabling the base using configurator so that the red light stop blinking.
2. Screw heads on the adaptor are a bit higher than a surface causing intermittent connection problems. Tightened them down, but maybe I’ll add something under that small pcb to raise it 0.5mm higher.

VVitalii Muravytskyi Ok, looks like I had two problems)) 1. VKB mentions that you can connect your st...

ddrake1984•4/8/24, 11:14 AM

Light is configured in vkb app

Dddrake1984 Light is configured in vkb app

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 3:54 PM

Yeah I see this already, but just because the connection was unstable, I thought the stick was not recognized at all. Bug multiplication in a nutshell

Everything works now as it should!

Ice•4/8/24, 5:10 PM

I've plugged in my 16EX but I'm not getting any button data it seems

Ice•4/8/24, 5:10 PM

I think I'm missing something

Fresh_Mint•4/8/24, 5:15 PM

Do you have adapter?

Ice•4/8/24, 5:16 PM

Yes, and selected in the software

Ice•4/8/24, 5:20 PM

Is there anything I'm supposed to do other than connect the adapter, connect the stick, and select the Winwing adapter in the software?

Fresh_Mint•4/8/24, 5:20 PM

The connector may not have been fully inserted

Ice•4/8/24, 5:21 PM

I took it off and checked, it appears to be.

Ice•4/8/24, 5:42 PM

No luck

How would I diagnose if I have a bad stick from WinWing or a bad adapter?

IIce No luck 😦 How would I diagnose if I have a bad stick from WinWing or a bad adap...

walmis•4/8/24, 5:52 PM

Enable the debug grip profile, it should spam data in the debug tab. Check if it's all FFs or not. All FFs would mean adapter is not communicating with the base.

Got the rhino working well in MSFS for the fixed wing aircraft like the Comanche - however seem to h

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