My apologies if this is the wrong section for this. I’m trying to build a g-seat and the vpforce tel

My apologies if this is the wrong section for this. I’m trying to build a g-seat and the vpforce telem seems like an ideal place to get telemetry across sim platforms. Is there a feasible way for me to export data from VPforceTelem to a usb COM port?

SSmorgus My apologies if this is the wrong section for this. I’m trying to build a g-seat...

Toddimus•4/16/24, 2:36 AM

I’m sure there’s a way to “pass it on” from Telem but that would likely only add latency. The more ideal way would be to pull it directly from the sim in parallel with Telem, instead of getting it from/through Telem. Probably not what you wanted to hear but it would likely be better to do it independently, unless you had Telem directly driving your extra transducers or motors.

TToddimus I’m sure there’s a way to “pass it on” from Telem but that would likely only add...

SmorgusOP•4/16/24, 2:37 AM

Hmm got it. What level of latency are we talking? One potential Avenue could be to make the seat an FFB device and give it the G-effect. (That seems a bit round-about tho.) I’m most of the way to what I need for DCS, getting data out of MSFS and especially IL2 will be trickier

Toddimus•4/16/24, 2:39 AM

I don’t have a feeling for what latency it would add but a direct “pull “ would be better. Think of it as a separate thread.

Toddimus•4/16/24, 2:46 AM

Eventually, I want to add a 2-3 and ultimately a 6DOF motion platform. While the telemetry from the sim (no matter which sim it is) is being queried (or published to) TelemFFB, the outputs are different. I imagine that one could incorporate motion platform outputs into TelemFFB, it’s really designed for controls, rather than motion. That’s my geek understanding of it and it might be incomplete. Having said that, there could exist a super-program that does everything. I just don’t know that such things exist yet.

Toddimus•4/16/24, 2:50 AM

BTW, your stick configuration on another thread looks quite impressive, I must say!

SSmorgus My apologies if this is the wrong section for this. I’m trying to build a g-seat...

Number481•4/16/24, 2:53 AM

Rather than trying to piggyback on top of TelemFFB, or shoe-horn some additional export functionality into a fork (and then having to try to keep it updated in synch with the main branch)... you'd likely be better off just borrowing the DCS export script and modifying it to suit your telemetry needs.

What TelemFFB does with simconnect is likely way overly complex for what you would want for a G-Seat. I'd recommend just looking at some of the pysimconnect examples on how to get the basic G/Vector telemetry you would want/need.

Similarly with IL2, most of the complexity there is in the decoding of the telemetry stream, which again, you could lift that decode module from TelemFFB.

NNumber481 Rather than trying to piggyback on top of TelemFFB, or shoe-horn some additional...

SmorgusOP•4/16/24, 2:55 AM

Got it! I’ll do more poking into the telem ffb guts. Im firmware savvy, but this stuff will be a bit more of a challenge for me.

SSmorgus Got it! I’ll do more poking into the telem ffb guts. Im firmware savvy, but this...

Number481•4/16/24, 2:56 AM

feel free to post in https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1123294843079237716 if you have questions about how stuff works

NNumber481 feel free to post in https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/11232948430...

SmorgusOP•4/16/24, 2:58 AM

Thank you! I’ve got a lot know mechanical work to do on the seat for the meantime. I’ve got a better sense of my game plan software wise

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 6:09 AM

Hello @walmis I have problem with my DYI Rhino. Yesterday it shutoff when I was dogfighting in DCS. I got this in view in my VpConfigurator, both motors "offline". I pressed reset numerus times, reset pc, removed power but nothing changes. One motors screws were hot so I thought, maybe it need to cool down. But after 7h it's still the same. Resetting profile or motors is not doing anything. What can I do?

KKowalsky Hello @walmis I have problem with my DYI Rhino. Yesterday it shutoff when I was ...

walmis•4/16/24, 6:12 AM

Hi, can you measure your power supply?

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 6:12 AM

I can give it a shoot, how exactly should I do that?

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 6:15 AM

I have the same PSU as in stock Rhino, Green Cell PRO 19V 9.5A 180W

walmis•4/16/24, 6:16 AM

You'd need to measure if 20V is coming to the FFB board with a multimeter

walmis•4/16/24, 6:17 AM

Also if there's no LED indication under the motor covers it is most likely power issues

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 6:18 AM

I can see green led light inside

walmis•4/16/24, 6:19 AM

I suspect what youre seeing is most likely from the FFB board

walmis•4/16/24, 6:19 AM

You'd need to open it up to check

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 6:20 AM

Ok, understood

YunacPL•4/16/24, 12:04 PM

Does vpc mongoose "cm1" supported by rhino?

YunacPL•4/16/24, 12:04 PM

Wwalmis Hi, can you measure your power supply?

Kowalsky•4/16/24, 12:08 PM

Ok, issue fixed. It was broken DC socket not giving + to the emergency button and the ffb board. It must fried itself yesterday. Thanks Walmis and @SR-FWinger[73]_David for all the help and support tracking that issue

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•4/16/24, 12:12 PM

youre very welcome. now good flying again:)

YYunacPL Does vpc mongoose "cm1" supported by rhino?

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•4/16/24, 12:13 PM

all VPC grips are supported.
Also all TM grips.
VKB with adapter and also Winwing with adapter

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•4/16/24, 12:14 PM

at least i got this info. please correct me if i am wrong;)

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David all VPC grips are supported. Also all TM grips. VKB with adapter and also Winwin...

YunacPL•4/16/24, 12:20 PM

yep i have 2 alphas and 2 TM grips just wondered if the older VPC stick will work due its not listed

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•4/16/24, 12:23 PM

ahh i get it. Walmis will have the answer. Wild guess: it whould work..

walmis•4/16/24, 12:24 PM

Yeah, it should work.

Sudeebare•4/16/24, 12:58 PM

I'm trying to get my preorder # for my Rhino and ship date for my VKB adapter order #907 from the bot but am only getting this response: "Sorry, I don't know what you mean, try !help" How do I get the bot to understand my request?

Spelljammer1•4/16/24, 12:59 PM

Is it safe to keep the Rhino base connector for the grips unscrewed?

This is in the context of static connector on grips such as TMs and RealSimulators, where the mini-din does not stretch out or rotate. I had some damaging consequences when pairing a static connector (like the Rhino) with a static grip connector (like the Realsim/TM grips).

SSudeebare I'm trying to get my preorder # for my Rhino and ship date for my VKB adapter or...

Fr4Ged•4/16/24, 1:29 PM

well, try the !help command and do as the bot says.
you basically want to use the "!info [your e-mail adress]" command.

Sudeebare•4/16/24, 1:51 PM

Just checked my email and now have tracking # for 907. Thanks!

Wwalmis Uh, that was quite a drop 😕 Fill out the http://order.vpforce.eu form, I'll sen...

FEVER 1-2 | FZG_Flav•4/16/24, 2:52 PM

I received the new parts for replacement. Thx you very much.

Sudeebare•4/18/24, 12:00 PM

I would like to find an extension to use with the VPForce VKB adapter. It looks as though the VPC 50/75/100mm adapters might be useable for that purpose. Can anyone confirm that those extensions will accept the VKB adapter threads for mounting to the Rhino?

AndyHill•4/18/24, 1:01 PM

I can't confirm, but the Rhino already basically has a built-in extension so if you haven't I suggest you make some actual measurements to make sure you actually need an extension

SSudeebare I would like to find an extension to use with the VPForce VKB adapter. It looks ...

walmis•4/18/24, 1:12 PM

Yeah, VKB adapter will go on VPC extension without problem

Sudeebare•4/18/24, 2:11 PM

Thanks!

Sup3rToc0!•4/18/24, 10:35 PM

Has anyone had a problem where you get charged twice at payout?

Skete•4/19/24, 3:26 AM

hey all, I know for sure I have seen people talk about this before however my brain can't find anything searching for it.
My question is under what setting in the configurator would cause the stick to wobble back and forth as its trying to recentre itself - I have found reducing the spring gain slows it down but i've definitely touched something months ago and can't remember what it was. sometimes now the stick will exponentially wobble itself out of control.

YunacPL•4/19/24, 6:04 AM

How does the shift register board work ? Is it plug and play? Does it have axis outputs?

YYunacPL How does the shift register board work ? Is it plug and play? Does it have axis ...

walmis•4/19/24, 6:06 AM

It connects to the 5 pin grip connection and allows to wire up to 32 buttons