So I was copying very important files to another drive because I needed to back them up because Bazz

So I was copying very important files to another drive because I needed to back them up because Bazzite was acting super freaky and weird for me

turns out, bazzite has decided to copy all of the folders and none of the files

this marks the end of my journey with Linux until it's capable of doing the most basic system tasks known to man without causing me over 2 weeks worth of data loss

This is a usernameOP•4/27/24, 11:55 AM

I give up here

antheas•4/27/24, 12:07 PM

What happened to the original files?

TThis is a username So I was copying very important files to another drive because I needed to back ...

potemkinhr•4/27/24, 12:11 PM

I know the feel, I have been screwed similarly back in the day by OS X. I was moving college project files to an external drive and apparent for just a split second the USB drive lost connection for a bit, which under normal circumstances wouldn't be that big a deal, but then there's Apple. See, when you are doing a move files option if by any chance the destination becomes unavailable it reverts the move but then also deletes the files in the source, so you're left with nothing. Almost failed my grade, luckily I could hand in the files later.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/os-x-lion-finder-bug-deletes-moved-files/

CNET

OS X Lion Finder bug deletes moved files

It's an unusual bug, but it could still happen to you. Here's how to dodge it.

antheas•4/27/24, 12:13 PM

Yeah when copying from drive to drive I usually do a copy and when it succeeds I remove the original

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

Also important to note that Linux uses ram caching for all drives unlike windows

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

So the transfer shows finished before it finishes

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

And if you don't eject you get data corruption

Aantheas What happened to the original files?

This is a usernameOP•4/27/24, 12:22 PM

lemme say it like this:

1. Files are on Drive A
2. I copy them to Drive B, now they're on Drives A and B
3. I wipe Drive A completely, it's now empty
4. I check Drive B, turns out the files didn't copy properly and essentially everything is gone aside empty folders

doomhound•4/27/24, 12:32 PM

Anyone run into issues using gamescope where you go to alt tab to a browser and only the virtual desktop for the game is visible

TThis is a username lemme say it like this: 1. Files are on Drive A 2. I copy them to Drive B, now...

HikariKnight•4/27/24, 12:43 PM

how did you do the copy, also did you actually check if the progress was 100% done before even ejecting drive B (so that the remaining transfered files get flushed to the drive before you remove it if they havent been moved yet)
kde and gnomes file managers do not show progress in a clear way, often hiding it into a small icon either in the file manager or tray.

because linux tends to make the empty folders first, then copy files so it sounds like an incomplete transfer.

HHikariKnight how did you do the copy, also did you actually check if the progress was 100% do...

This is a usernameOP•4/27/24, 12:50 PM

a notification said the transfer completed successfully

Exceed•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

this sucks i dont know why gw2 isnt launching anymore

TThis is a username a notification said the transfer completed successfully

HikariKnight•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

means it can still be cached in ram and wont get force flushed before you eject the drive (unmount)

Exceed•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

i made a support thread

HHikariKnight means it can still be cached in ram and wont get force flushed before you eject ...

This is a usernameOP•4/27/24, 12:58 PM

no lol, it can't

This is a usernameOP•4/27/24, 12:58 PM

this happened like yesterday, it's long gone

TThis is a username no lol, it can't

HikariKnight•4/27/24, 12:59 PM

im talking when it said it was complete, it could still be in flight in ram because of how the disk caching work in linux

TThis is a username a notification said the transfer completed successfully

halva•4/27/24, 1:02 PM

it's a quirk with most modern oses, they don't exactly tell you when the transfer is actually complete because of caching
that's why you need to safe eject pen drives

halva•4/27/24, 1:03 PM

that can happen anywhere from windows to android

halva•4/27/24, 1:04 PM

altho if you did do the whole safe ejection song and dance, then that's really odd

Hhalva altho if you did do the whole safe ejection song and dance, then that's really o...

HikariKnight•4/27/24, 1:11 PM

exactly

antheas•4/27/24, 1:19 PM

windows disables RAM caching but as far as I know its the only os to do so

antheas•4/27/24, 1:19 PM

for hotpluggable drives

halva•4/27/24, 1:20 PM

it should but in my experience it's very hit or miss with guessing which drives are actually hotpluggable

antheas•4/27/24, 1:20 PM

thats also true

antheas•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

still is a bad idea to yank drives. But linux is particularly bad in that regard

antheas•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

transfers can finish half an hour before they actually do

halva•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

yea

halva•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

i think it's just a good idea in general to never assume those notifications are true

wangjangler•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

speaking of drivers is there any reason why I cant use my drawing tablet on bazzite lol

antheas•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

it should work

wangjangler•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

I installed the opentabletdrivers and otd-gui detects my tablet but my mouse doesnt like Move

antheas•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

unless the open tablet drivers did not make it to f40

antheas•4/27/24, 1:23 PM

did you try krita?

wangjangler•4/27/24, 1:23 PM

I'm using rnote which worked on endeavouros
cursor is supposed to move when I use the pen on the tablet but it isnt

wangjangler•4/27/24, 1:24 PM

but yea OTD is detecting it

antheas•4/27/24, 1:25 PM

rebooting a couple times always helps, cant say much more

antheas•4/27/24, 1:25 PM

could also be a flatpak quirk

antheas•4/27/24, 1:25 PM

since i assume you installed from the arch repos on endeavouros

ott.tar.gz•4/27/24, 1:27 PM

It seems like my system has a pretty high chance of completely hanging when attempting to load GNOME after logging in , in the asus-nvidia image for Fedora 40

ott.tar.gz•4/27/24, 1:27 PM

I had to boot into 39 to even get to the desktop properly

char•4/27/24, 1:30 PM

how can i bring up the keyboard on the rog ally in bazzite in desktop mode, when in mouse mode (I held down the crate button to activate mouse mode)

alteredworldevent•4/27/24, 1:30 PM

This a good time to install a new fedora?

Cchar how can i bring up the keyboard on the rog ally in bazzite in desktop mode, when...

ott.tar.gz•4/27/24, 1:31 PM

If there's some kind of "super" button (on the Steam Deck it's the Steam button), press that in combination with X. As long as Steam is running, it should show the same one as on the deck