More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correctly. When I hold down

More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correctly. When I hold down the trigger, the gun firing effect is listed under ‘Active effects for stick’, but you don’t feel anything in the stick.

BBooker More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correct...

Number481•5/1/24, 2:08 AM

Can you post screenshots of both the effects and settings tab in configurator? The effects dab you did post can’t be accurate since it shows everything disabled.

Number481•5/1/24, 2:17 AM

~~Also, specifically with gunfire. Make sure you don’t have unlimited ammo enabled (or set in the mission).~~ nvm…if the effect is playing in TelemFFB, that’s not the issue.

NNumber481 Can you post screenshots of both the effects and settings tab in configurator? ...

BookerOP•5/1/24, 7:41 AM

Ah, maybe that’s my issue. I thought you normally have all the effects turned off and just let DCS do everything. I thought the effects were for flight sims that didn’t support FFB. What effects are normally turned on? Also, is stick shake at the stall a built-in DCS effect or is it done with telemetry?

BBooker Ah, maybe that’s my issue. I thought you normally have all the effects turned of...

Number481•5/1/24, 11:09 AM

A simplified description of how it works is:
- Effects tab sets the limitations for the sliders on the settings tab
- Settings tab sliders set the limitations on what a game can command via DirectX FFB
Together they sort of define the maximum capabilities and characteristics of the device.

Example: A game will just say "set spring to %50". It has no idea what is set in configurator. The resulting force you feel will be the spring settings in Effects TabEffects Tab * Settings TabSettings Tab * %50.

I recommend importing and starting with the default rhino configurator profile (in the configs directory in your configurator install).

WRT stick shake. Depends on the module. Some have stall buffeting built-in. However, that is the only "haptic" type effect that is part of the native FFB from DCS.

NNumber481 A simplified description of how it works is: - Effects tab sets the limitations ...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/1/24, 12:51 PM

I’m busy soaking up as much of this as I can… got a shipping notification on my kit so now I gotta seriously study this software.

Thanks to you and everyone out here “solving” these issues I honestly hope when it comes to my time I can use some of what I’ve picked up to help myself out of a jam.

Little tips like how when it’s set to unlimited Ammo the counter doesn’t move so you don’t get FFB gunfire effect.

Stuff like that seems like nothing but it’s sort of a big deal when troubleshooting so I appreciate all the tips and tricks you guys post.

NNumber481 A simplified description of how it works is: - Effects tab sets the limitations ...

BookerOP•5/1/24, 11:37 PM

Ok, everything working now. A Windows reboot has everything working. Turns out it works just fine even with all Effects turned off.

Col. Sanders•5/2/24, 6:58 AM

Power plug has started to fall out when I have lots of feedback. And ideas how how to keep it in?

Wwalmis @Niklas [NiccoSWE] can you post a screenshot of the values after calibration?

NiccoSWE•5/2/24, 7:20 AM

I'm using a workaroud by defining a deasspace in the Tune Axis section in DCS.

NNiccoSWE I'm using a workaroud by defining a deasspace in the Tune Axis section in DCS.

walmis•5/2/24, 7:25 AM

In your setup, encoder position wraps around, so it can be undefined at startup.
I suggest you follow the instruction about initial belt position/calibration:

CCol. Sanders Power plug has started to fall out when I have lots of feedback. And ideas how h...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/2/24, 10:31 AM

DIY or production unit?

If DIY you can take it apart and add the “Twist lock” connector.

Here is the Male 5.5 x 2.1 (same size as the Rhino plug) with “Twist lock”. Get the female and swap them out.

IF you are using a production unit ask @walmis because opening or swapping parts probably void any warranty?

So the answer is: “It depends”

But yep that’s the part you need and that’s why they lock in place

Hope that helps

Touch_Of_Legend•5/2/24, 10:31 AM

https://www.parts-express.com/DC-Twist-Lock-Coax-Plug-2.1-x-5.5mm-090-5027?quantity=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=21081298514&utm_content=164890989532&gadid=692832632814&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5buh7eDuhQMV4GBHAR2uugmfEAQYAiABEgI6KfD_BwE

Touch_Of_Legend•5/2/24, 10:32 AM

(You need the Male and Female btw but I assume you know I just wanted to clarify)

TTouch_Of_Legend DIY or production unit? If DIY you can take it apart and add the “Twist lock” c...

Col. Sanders•5/2/24, 4:19 PM

Thank you for the feedback. It is a production unit, so definitely would not want to void any warranty.

CCol. Sanders Power plug has started to fall out when I have lots of feedback. And ideas how h...

BookerOP•5/3/24, 12:38 AM

Gaffer's tape over the plug? Might be easier if you got a 90° extension. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SZ8HV2P?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Fancasee 6 ft 5.5mm x 2.5mm DC Power Extension Cable 90 Degree Righ...

L-Shape 5.5mm x 2.5mm DC power supply extension cable, convert straight plug to 90 degree right angle plug, male to female plug jack connector extension cord. The 90 degree right angle plug jack cable can be easily go through the narrow gap, will never bend and damage the power supply cord. This ...

CCol. Sanders Thank you for the feedback. It is a production unit, so definitely would not wan...

Number481•5/3/24, 12:41 AM

Probably can just bend out these little tabs a bit…. 🧰support

NNumber481 Probably can just bend out these little tabs a bit…. https://discord.com/channel...

Col. Sanders•5/3/24, 1:31 AM

I will see what I can do

Boo Berry•5/3/24, 1:48 AM

Hello, how do I get force feedback to work in War Thunder. When I enable force feedback in game the stick goes limp as it should on ground but never stiffens up while flying. Any ideas?

Wwalmis In your setup, encoder position wraps around, so it can be undefined at startup....

NiccoSWE•5/3/24, 7:12 AM

Great! Thank you, will try this

harry•5/3/24, 3:27 PM

installed the UH-6A and perhaps did something wrong in the clone dialog in Telem ffb. It seems that it doesnt recognize it, because curret aircraft is unknown.

harry•5/3/24, 3:27 PM

joystick log:

message.txt7.17KB

harry•5/3/24, 3:27 PM

pedals log:

message.txt6.69KB

harry•5/3/24, 3:28 PM

does someone no how to get to normal? If I restart dcs and load the p51 all is fine

Hharry installed the UH-6A and perhaps did something wrong in the clone dialog in Telem...

Number481•5/3/24, 3:53 PM

until the next TelemFFB release, you'll need to replace the export script in the TelemFFB export folder with this one: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1230852705593851964/1235261252306206740

harry•5/3/24, 4:27 PM

Thank you very much @Number481 i will try that.

Aileron_Hubbard•5/4/24, 3:53 AM

Anyone have a winwing adapter fail on them? I checked the stick on the OG base and all the buttons work there. It used to work but I took the stick off and now I'm trying to put it back on and it won't pick up the stick. Wiggling the connection around I did see 2 buttons illuminate on the software for a moment but can't get it all now. I tried forcing the connection down pretty hard like another user did to get it working but it's not happening for me.

Vertigo (VIV)•5/4/24, 9:08 AM

Is there any way to make the hat switches work as hats on my VPC T-50CM (not CM2) ? If I select the CM2 grip almost everything works, but the hats are only recognized as buttons

AAileron_Hubbard Anyone have a winwing adapter fail on them? I checked the stick on the OG base a...

Kowalsky•5/4/24, 9:22 AM

Yes, mine died on me also. Search for my messages and contact Walmis for replacement

VVertigo (VIV)Is there any way to make the hat switches work as hats on my VPC T-50CM (not CM2...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/4/24, 11:40 AM

This question confuses me?

A 4 way hat switch is technically 4 buttons mapped Up, Left, Down, Right.

So far as I’m aware the original CM does not have push click hats (5 way).

So the hat switch should be picked up as 4 separate switch inputs.

Is it not working that way? Or what’s the behavior of the switches?

Sorry I can’t be more help but I’m setting up a T50CM next week so I’m watching to pick up tips and tricks along the way.

VVertigo (VIV)Is there any way to make the hat switches work as hats on my VPC T-50CM (not CM2...

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 12:59 PM

This is just a question for my own knowledge but why do they need to be hats? Why can’t you use them as buttons?

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 12:59 PM

Basically what touch of legend above me said lol

TTouch_Of_Legend This question confuses me? A 4 way hat switch is technically 4 buttons mapped U...

Vertigo (VIV)•5/4/24, 4:31 PM

You are correct. Its a minor thing, but if windows recognizes as a hat and not 4 buttons, it makes live a little easier, for instance in jo2key I can see a hat switch and direction which is easier to remember than button 23, or condor asks for a POV hat switch and I supposedly dont have any. Not a big deal, I can map them as 4 separate controls, just wondered if I could tweak that somewhere

VVertigo (VIV)You are correct. Its a minor thing, but if windows recognizes as a hat and not 4...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/4/24, 4:36 PM

Ahh cool maybe it can be suggested for an update?

Speaking of Telem updates I think there was one today!

Number481•5/4/24, 4:39 PM

did you try disabling these checkboxes?

NNumber481 did you try disabling these checkboxes?

Vertigo (VIV)•5/4/24, 4:54 PM

yes

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 7:14 PM

Does the winwing adapter have anything other than a 6pin to 5pin connector inside it?

AAileron_Hubbard Anyone have a winwing adapter fail on them? I checked the stick on the OG base a...

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 7:39 PM

I have the same problem with my winging adapter. @walmis response was to press it in really hard, but its a problem with how the the connector he uses in the adapter and the connector on the stick connect. Not sure if it's a depth problem or what. I can wiggle the connection and see my stick connect/disconnect fine but as soon as you tighten it, it's kind of hit/miss. If you get lucky and it's all tight, it works great, if it happens to spin (since there's no way to lock the spinning on the stick) then you lose the connection. If I connect a separate wire between the WW grip and the adapter, it is just fine. Im currently working on how to hack/fix it but have not been successful yet.

Tthedicecooler Does the winwing adapter have anything other than a 6pin to 5pin connector insid...

Aileron_Hubbard•5/4/24, 7:43 PM

@Kowalsky I don't believe so. Appears to just be 5 to 6 pin. It did connect for a brief moment when I was wiggling it but I can't get it to happen again. I also think it's a depth issue. Almost wondering if I can put something conductive inside the female side to make the connection but I'm afraid I'll damage the mail end. I did speaking with Walmis this morning and it sounds like I'll be getting a replacement. Walmis is the freaking man!

Wwalmis From the log it looks like the adapter is communicating with the base correctly....

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 10:57 PM

Still having the same problems. I've discovered that you if you wiggle the wire it connects/disconnects, it's not a solid connection, force doesnt fix it. It's hit or miss if I get it connected and tightened at the same time. As I fly, sometimes the stick rotates a bit (winwing problem) and that disturbs the wire enough to disconnect the stick. I have a 3ft PS/2 extention wire that I can plug from the stick directly to the base and no disconnect problem when wiggled.

VVertigo (VIV)yes

MichalK•5/5/24, 6:24 AM

From what i remember the CM Grip is wired differently than cm2 so the hat is not where the software expects. It should work with Thrustmaster mapping, that's what the original cm grip is using.

MMichalK From what i remember the CM Grip is wired differently than cm2 so the hat is not...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/5/24, 9:19 AM

Awesome I’m also going to try this!

Thanks to the both of you for figuring out an issue before I even had it lol

Touch_Of_Legend•5/5/24, 9:21 AM

Because yeah the CM has a normal single button on the “thumb press” instead of the Slew/sensor Hat the CM2’s have.

NNumber481 until the next TelemFFB release, you'll need to replace the export script in the...

harry•5/5/24, 10:19 AM

I did the update, and now it seems to work, I just wonder that my poti has no influence now. Before i just reduced spring by the poty and could fly heli. do i have to repeat some settings to get this working again. Please no rush with answering, enjoy your weekend and kind regards...

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:37 PM

So I just fired up my PC and have an odd issue - my Rhino appears to work and is "seen" by TelemFFB and WebUSB tool, but not within VPForce Configurator. Thoughts?

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:38 PM

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:38 PM

That is all I get.

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:39 PM

Still works fine in game. I've moved it from different USB ports and get the same thing.

DDAPA So I just fired up my PC and have an odd issue - my Rhino appears to work and is...

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 5:48 PM

Just a random thought.
Anything like HidHide running and you forgot the let the stick visible to the configurator ?

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

False alarm. I am running HidHide, but that wasn't it. On a hunch I powered down the PC completely and unplugged my USB cables and hubs and left them off for a minute, then powered it all back up. I noticed I was having odd issues with my HS70 wireless headset as well and figured that might be it....and it was.

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:55 PM

I need to engage brain before panic and asking questions.

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 5:56 PM

Hardly hurts, and sometimes not asking can be much more expensive

More notes to my issue above. The telemetry software seems to be working correctly. When I hold down

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