or organ donation, didn't look that carefully
or organ donation, didn't look that carefully
HIt’s always the fine print that gets ya….
HIs it my imagination or does production seemed to have slowed recently?
HNoticed production was somewhere around 1-2 a day a month ago, but that has dropped recently.
CDidn't 3 ship today?
HJust looking at the numbers in my history and I think I am wrong.
The problem is most likely me
The problem is most likely me
MHello,
MI'm new to the VP force discord and I'm thinking of building a Rhino. Now I'm wondering witch motors to choose. I have no Idea if the bigger Motors will fit in the Casing of the Rhino? It should not be a problem to change the casings construction sligthly but is there any need to do that?
Mbest regards Moritz
TThe GitHub and Protomaker DIY Rhino kit only fits the 57 size motors.
The 87 are significantly larger and will not fit.
Can the files and dimensions be altered to fit? Sure but that’s gonna be a freaking huge base.
The 87 motors do work for sticks but the larger motors are mainly for FFB Rudders because leg muscles are so much stronger.
May I ask why you want the larger motors?
The 57 are great and what the official Rhino uses.
The 87 are significantly larger and will not fit.
Can the files and dimensions be altered to fit? Sure but that’s gonna be a freaking huge base.
The 87 motors do work for sticks but the larger motors are mainly for FFB Rudders because leg muscles are so much stronger.
May I ask why you want the larger motors?
The 57 are great and what the official Rhino uses.
MI just aske cause I don't wan't to pit too much effort in the printing and everythig to recognize that the stick has not enough force at the end.
MBut with your explanation I'm happy to go with the 57 size motors
Mthx a lot!
Mone last question, is there also a possibility to build some auto throttle with the Rhino kit?
F57 should be good for most normal uses, like sidestick or extensions <200mm(keep in mind the rhino is taller than most normal bases)
TThe “potential” maximum force depends on a lot of factors.
Basically it’s some complicated math but the 57’s max power comes from a higher power PSU and maybe with some radiator fins.
Also as discussed the length from motor to stick grip determines overall max force.
Basically it’s some complicated math but the 57’s max power comes from a higher power PSU and maybe with some radiator fins.
Also as discussed the length from motor to stick grip determines overall max force.
TWith a weak power supply you can watch the motors drop
FIirc no sim has support for auto throttle
TWithout cooling you could get better (longer duration) forces by avoiding the heat trip when it ramps itself down
FEh, i wouldnt be that concerned, i use 340w for the biggest motors and didnt have an issue
BThe actually sold units used the smaller motors and it does not lack power.
TNo im saying the opposite.
If you use a 15w 4amp it’s not the same as your 340
If you use a 15w 4amp it’s not the same as your 340
TSo it matters how much power you can give
FIf you use a 15w psu youre doing something wrong haha
MI thougth I've seen something like that before, but maybe this was just missunderstanding
TAgreed but I was more just saying on principal
Same with the radiator fins it’s only principal not practical for our space
Same with the radiator fins it’s only principal not practical for our space
TAnyway the max force is affected by a lot of factors up to and including shaft length (extensions).
But again that’s all user preference and honestly I’ve only ever heard one guy complain it was weak AND it turned out that was some software error on his part lol.
So even if you search you won’t find folks actually claiming the rhino is weak
But again that’s all user preference and honestly I’ve only ever heard one guy complain it was weak AND it turned out that was some software error on his part lol.
So even if you search you won’t find folks actually claiming the rhino is weak
MOk, that sounds good for me!
TThe only times I would maybe recommend the larger motors for a stick is for a true custom build.
The DIY is an awesome build with a few tiny hic cups and set up but after that you’ll be super happy.
The DIY is an awesome build with a few tiny hic cups and set up but after that you’ll be super happy.
V:package: 
RHINO #0534 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0534 Has Shipped!V:package: 
RHINO #0535 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0535 Has Shipped!
AI can totally understand the search for ultimate power, but it's a bit more complicated than you might think
Afor example the Rhino is already much stronger than what TM style connectors were ever thought to be used on
TBella Pais?
AI don't think there should be any problems with current power levels, but I also don't think TM connectors could handle the 2-figure kilos of some of the real planes
MAnd that one is mine ! 
TI just paid mine, so it wont be long
MYeah, I got the notification then the invoice just a couple of hours ago and now it's on it's way !
Tamazing
Tmines #588 tho, so it might be a little longer
Toh wait, its changed to #537 !
V:package: RHINO #0536 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0536 Has Shipped!
Sthe new lightest king in the top grip sector?
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TWonder when my name will turn colour
S@MichalK @neok since I know both of you have the Rhino as well as the Tianhang F-16 grip, could you tell me if it's able to be mounted at an angle on the Rhino as they come? angle meaning like you'd want for a center stick (see image)
SI'm currently eyeing that combo for my center stick, I'm just curious because I have seen the TM and WW grips need an adapter to achieve this
MYes, you can rotate it to any angle you want, the bottom is flat.
MFor center stick I suggest the A-10 version without forward tilt
NYep, the cable in the TH stick rotated freely
NI wasn't expecting it to really be true, that a lot of people bail on the waitlist
