Yeah that aluminium mount looks good, just picked mine up as well. Havent mounted it yet though, as

Yeah that aluminium mount looks good, just picked mine up as well. Havent mounted it yet though, as I managed to print one on monday that seems a-okay

Aamadeus i think what you need to do -- is boost the FFB gain

Bob BushmanOP•5/22/24, 8:24 PM

Yeah, playing with gain would have been my next go to, needed a break and check here for what you figured out.

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:26 PM

ywah you can boost the ffb gains

CapnFlint•5/22/24, 8:26 PM

I boosted my VPForce gain, and unchecked those two F4 special settings, and the Y Axis matches my expectations now. The X Axis is still pretty loose

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:26 PM

it's a very interesting implementation

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:27 PM

aileron axis seems to be just an axis (and very soft at default settings), y axis seems to react to airspeed

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:27 PM

and trim

amadeus•5/22/24, 8:27 PM

yeah, agreed, wondering if there’s a bug in there

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:27 PM

I have the in-game gains at 200%, but will probably just leave 200% for the ailerons since they feel so soft

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:28 PM

unless that's how it's supposed to be, I don't know

Bob BushmanOP•5/22/24, 8:28 PM

Then I would have been suprised it was flown at all

BBob Bushman Then I would have been suprised it was flown at all

raybanwomble•5/22/24, 8:43 PM

have any of you read the flight manual? The F4 had some kind of syntehtic feedback built in didn't it?

Bob BushmanOP•5/22/24, 8:46 PM

Well as it stands right now, any gust of wind, turbulence etc of any level would have knock the stick into full roll deflection at any speed.

Sounds rather unsafe to me.

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:46 PM

we are men, our eyes are blind to manuals and ears deaf to instructions

AndyHill•5/22/24, 8:47 PM

try increasing the FFB gains in the special menu, should give you firmer feel

BBob Bushman Yeah that aluminium mount looks good, just picked mine up as well. Havent mounte...

Duchess ✈•5/22/24, 8:49 PM

I got a new adapter printed, and broke the pin guard around the joystick plugin. The new offset adapter file is either wrong or the 3D shop did not do a good job of printing it.

superbird1011•5/22/24, 10:27 PM

Does anyone have some good settings in the ffb configurator for DCS? I accidentally reset my FFB configurator and now my Phantom feels super light. Still getting feedback it just is now, even fully turned up, light as a feather

Ssuperbird1011 Does anyone have some good settings in the ffb configurator for DCS? I accidenta...

Bob BushmanOP•5/22/24, 11:06 PM

The f4 is having issues, best guess so far but haven't tested yet myself is to increase ffb gain in the special menu to 200% for roll and pitch.

AndyHill•5/22/24, 11:14 PM

elevator is essentially limp until you have some airspeed

Bob BushmanOP•5/22/24, 11:50 PM

Testing now and adjusting gain in the dxs menu helps immensely

MGBDave•5/22/24, 11:51 PM

I've been using the Navigraph VR interface in MSFS since buying Beyond ATC, and I've noticed a strange interaction with TelemFFB. For some Navigraph interactions, such as selecting an approach or arrival to see the chart on the map, when it loads it seems to momentarily interrupt the FFB for about a second. I'm not sure if that's a sim connect issue or something else. Does anyone else have the same issue?

Duchess ✈•5/23/24, 12:43 AM

I adjust it to 200% in both pitch and roll, it is feeling better. Still feels a little off though.

Hawkeye•5/23/24, 1:01 AM

How difficult is the Rhino to DIY if you buy the DIY kit?

BBob Bushman Yeah that aluminium mount looks good, just picked mine up as well. Havent mounte...

nubbins•5/23/24, 2:02 AM

i really want one, but after scouring diy channel i've only seen one diy that can fit it, and it appears to be a custom metal gimbal

Nnubbins i really want one, but after scouring diy channel i've only seen one diy that ca...

Bob BushmanOP•5/23/24, 2:03 AM

Not sure what you refer to there.
That piece there is simply the same metallic variant for the same 3d printed mount on the stock rhino.

Bob BushmanOP•5/23/24, 2:04 AM

And when I start making sentences like that, it's time for bed :S

BBob Bushman Not sure what you refer to there. That piece there is simply the same metallic v...

nubbins•5/23/24, 2:04 AM

afaik none of the 3 diy guides look like they can use it, the whole throttle connector is 1 piece down to the gimbal

AAndyHill try increasing the FFB gains in the special menu, should give you firmer feel

CapnFlint•5/23/24, 2:53 AM

What ratio do you have between Spring/Damper/Inertia etc in VPforce Configurator?

amadeus•5/23/24, 3:30 AM

Started a thread in the heatblur server about force feedback if anyone else is interested in following along or adding context: https://discord.com/channels/1071433028045377637/1243043128693362688

MashedPotato•5/23/24, 5:29 AM

Anyone have work around settings to smooth it out in the F-4? I set to 200%, but it felt terrible, and the trim seemed crazy skewed forward, like at no point was I flying in a comfortable position without extreme nose up attitude

MMashedPotato Anyone have work around settings to smooth it out in the F-4? I set to 200%, but...

Kowalsky•5/23/24, 5:32 AM

Same, still searching

Aamadeus Started a thread in the heatblur server about force feedback if anyone else is i...

Kowalsky•5/23/24, 5:47 AM

I can't see it, link is not working. Can you guide me where it is?

amadeus•5/23/24, 5:58 AM

Join the heatblur discord: https://discord.gg/heatblur-simulations

Kowalsky•5/23/24, 6:15 AM

I'm already on Heatblur discord. Just your thread is not showing up

AAndyHill elevator is essentially limp until you have some airspeed

Scarlet•5/23/24, 6:20 AM

That may be by design, to a point. The bellows-and-bob-weight artificial feel system does rely on airspeed

BBob Bushman The f4 is having issues, best guess so far but haven't tested yet myself is to i...

Shamansky•5/23/24, 8:03 AM

There is a FFB thread on F-4 dcs forums now, please contribute https://forum.dcs.world/topic/349303-ffb-force-on-x-axis-much-weaker-than-on-y-axis/

ED Forums

FFB force on x-axis much weaker than on y-axis

Is that "realistic" and intended?

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Aamadeus Started a thread in the heatblur server about force feedback if anyone else is i...

mac22443506•5/23/24, 9:51 AM

See there is a lot of discussion around this already - does anyone have any General tips about how to set the rhino up with basic functionality to work with the f4? (So far tried to use the f14 profile within Telem as the base to tweak and the rhino/FFB still feels a bit weird)

CCapnFlint What ratio do you have between Spring/Damper/Inertia etc in VPforce Configurator...

AndyHill•5/23/24, 10:19 AM

gain and spring at 100%, damper 16%, periodic 60%, constant 100%

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DoubleD•5/23/24, 1:18 PM

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Sup3rToc0!•5/23/24, 2:43 PM

Does dcs modules automatically override spring and damper forces? Or do o have to manually adjust them in the vpf software? Like to get as close to the real life F-14 stick as possible, what settings would y’all recommend?

MMashedPotato Anyone have work around settings to smooth it out in the F-4? I set to 200%, but...

Sup3rToc0!•5/23/24, 2:44 PM

I have the same issue in the F-14. Is there any fix?

AndyHill•5/23/24, 2:52 PM

the settings in settings pretty much determine what is for example the maximum spring force available to the game

AndyHill•5/23/24, 2:53 PM

in the effects tab you can set effects to be "sticky" in which case they override the game

SSup3rToc0!Does dcs modules automatically override spring and damper forces? Or do o have t...

Number481•5/23/24, 3:02 PM

DCS generally doesn't do anything with Damper/Friction/Inertia/Constant. Only Spring and, in some cases Periodic.

So to your question, those types of effects will generally stay at whatever you have them set for in configurator.

Yeah that aluminium mount looks good, just picked mine up as well. Havent mounted it yet though, as

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