The FFbeast crowd likes to say that it is Rhino-but-better, but while there is truth to that stateme

The FFbeast crowd likes to say that it is Rhino-but-better, but while there is truth to that statement I don't think it's going any further until they make something on par with telemffb

Nnubbins The FFbeast crowd likes to say that it is Rhino-but-better, but while there is t...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 12:55 PM

Yep I totally agree!

And you can make an all metal Rhino as well haha

But for me what you said is the true key.

Problem is… Telem is way ahead and keeps pushing active updates!

So that’s where the (early days) Apple v Android comes into play.

It’s honestly the software and this software is also.. on a rocket ship so it’s just light year ahead and moving faster

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 12:57 PM

I hate to sound like a fan boy but yeah… you hit the nail on the head and none of them will ever truly compete until they can get some sort of Telem stuff figured out AND they can out push updates because Rhino also keeps getting better and pushing its own bar even further…

So it’s always a great discussion but yeah that’s why I chose to ride a Rhino.

Software is King = Rhino is King

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 12:58 PM

At the same token a little healthy competition is great for the space and for fresh ideas so it’s just a great thing to be a small part of

TTouch_Of_Legend Yep I totally agree! And you can make an all metal Rhino as well haha But for...

nubbinsOP•6/5/24, 12:59 PM

the metal part is also......just tired lol, vkb community hears PLASTIC BAD so much

nubbinsOP•6/5/24, 12:59 PM

isn't first party rhino stick connector based around an extrusion? And now with the machined adapter, no more concerns if there were any

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 1:00 PM

Yeah Rhino didn’t just stay the same either it’s constant evolving and I bet one day we’ll see two pots on official units

nubbinsOP•6/5/24, 1:01 PM

funny thing to me is the lack of Estop on ffbeast - there was a whole forum discussion on it being "overkill" on rhino, but if there ever was a base that needed one I'd think it would be the 35Nm one

nubbinsOP•6/5/24, 1:01 PM

gonna have to wear a jock cup for that

AndyHill•6/5/24, 1:02 PM

well having a spring strength adjustment for the pedals too would be nice

AndyHill•6/5/24, 1:56 PM

also if I had Rhino's software I would probably be thinking about a fairly comprehensive haptic equipment catalogue

Dentedend10•6/5/24, 2:05 PM

Hi! The other day I was in the F14. Engines shut down, drained the hydraulics pressure for the flight controls. I was expecting to feel some difference in the pressure I need to put in to
Move the flights controls. However, after hydraulics pressure gone, there was no change in how the stick felt moving the surfaces around. I’ve already posted on F14 forum, but just wondering if this is correct behaviour, F14 bug, or something that can be done on the software side ?

DDentedend10 Hi! The other day I was in the F14. Engines shut down, drained the hydraulics pr...

Kowalsky•6/5/24, 2:18 PM

check:

DDentedend10 Hi! The other day I was in the F14. Engines shut down, drained the hydraulics pr...

Number481•6/5/24, 2:27 PM

Someone will likely correct me on technicalities, but I do not believe the F-14 (or any fixed wing aircraft I know of) controls work that way. Unlike a helicopter where the control column is hydraulicly boosted (and becomes difficult to manipulate without hydraulic pressure), the stick only manipulate hydraulic actuators which in turn manipulate the control surfaces. So the loss of pressure would result in reduced or zero control effectiveness.. but you would not feel it in the stick.

That said, even if I am wrong, it is not modeled for any aircraft in DCS.

As Kowalsky pointed out, there is a (still experimental) feature in TelemFFB, mostly meant for the helo's that can increase the dampen/friction forces below a certain hydraulic pressure threshold. But its somewhat complicated to set up because of the normal way we have our dampen/friction/inertia configurations setup. You can read about it in the TelemFFB manual.

NNumber481 Someone will likely correct me on technicalities, but I do not believe the F-14 ...

Dentedend10•6/5/24, 3:02 PM

Thanks for the reply! That’s really interesting to hear

Duchess ✈•6/5/24, 3:38 PM

Okay wizards, going to need some setup suggestions for the Kiowa.

DDuchess ✈Okay wizards, going to need some setup suggestions for the Kiowa.

Anthony•6/5/24, 4:38 PM

Just me who's getting major roll oscillation in ETL?

Anthony•6/5/24, 4:38 PM

Sharp, exaggerated

Anthony•6/5/24, 4:43 PM

As in, the stick is aggressively jerked sideways to and from

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•6/5/24, 4:43 PM

New to the rhino and telemffb but when I see I post images of the intiefsce with the nice purple sliders etc
That’s not what I get on mine just a list of effects and a tick box to activate them
Is there a setting I need to to adjust to get the snazzy interface like this

Duchess ✈•6/5/24, 4:44 PM

I have not yet, but have only just taken a real quick circuit around the island in the Instant

((41F) RAFAIR Dave H New to the rhino and telemffb but when I see I post images of the intiefsce with...

Number481•6/5/24, 5:09 PM

I'm not sure since there's never been a version with checkboxes but no settings sliders. The "old" version didn't have any effect settings in the UI (was all text config based). The new versions have always had settings with checkboxes to enable and sliders to adjust.

Maybe a screenshot of what you do see would help.

You can always grab the latest from https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/releases. Once installed (just a un-zip) it should allow you to auto-update when there are new versions.

Reed•6/5/24, 5:23 PM

Kiowa is live. Get your ffb on. It’s so good

RReed Kiowa is live. Get your ffb on. It’s so good

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:33 PM

No aggressive roll oscillation for you on hitting ETL either?

AAnthony No aggressive roll oscillation for you on hitting ETL either?

Number481•6/5/24, 5:47 PM

Didn't noticed anything either.. just a little panel shake as it goes through. Only took it through ETL a few times just to get numbers for the default telem profile but it seems pretty tame during the transition.

NNumber481 Didn't noticed anything either.. just a little panel shake as it goes through. ...

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:50 PM

I'm no longer getting it

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:50 PM

No idea why really, only thing I changed much was assigning a configurator file to it in TelemFFB

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:51 PM

It was one of those "trust me, you'd have known if you'd experienced it"

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:51 PM

100% guaranteed sharp jerking sideways when in ETL

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:52 PM

Had it when doing the training missions. Then I placed one in the ME, took off, got nothing. Went back to the training missions, didn't happen there either any more

Anthony•6/5/24, 5:52 PM

And I won't question good news

ButterSausage•6/5/24, 5:57 PM

Is there some sort of wait list for the base? Ace of Base

Bob Bushman•6/5/24, 6:03 PM

Reserve form in the #

faq channel.

BBob Bushman Reserve form in the #❓faq channel.

ButterSausage•6/5/24, 6:06 PM

Thanks a lot man! May the thunder rumble on your path tonight! My biggest disadvantage in life is impatience

.Eagle.•6/5/24, 6:55 PM

Can someone share to me his settings for the apache in telemforcefeedback pls?

BButterSausage Thanks a lot man! May the thunder rumble on your path tonight! My biggest disadv...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/5/24, 7:05 PM

You can always DIY. Those are the green names

AAnthony No aggressive roll oscillation for you on hitting ETL either?

Reed•6/5/24, 7:14 PM

no i didnt notice

TTouch_Of_Legend You can always DIY. Those are the green names 👍🏽

Toddimus•6/5/24, 7:16 PM

Go team green!!

ButterSausage•6/5/24, 7:32 PM

Green machine

RReed no i didnt notice

Anthony•6/5/24, 7:33 PM

Yeah me neither anymore, so all’s well that ends well

.Eagle.•6/5/24, 9:09 PM

I need my green name

RReed Kiowa is live. Get your ffb on. It’s so good

Duchess ✈•6/5/24, 9:15 PM

Have you made any changes to settings? Currently my stick is set up for the F-4E/F-15E.... I am not sure that is how it is supposed to be.

Reed•6/6/24, 12:18 AM

Reed•6/6/24, 12:19 AM

My settings. Minus hardware force trim. Leave that off for in game dcs aircraft that have native support.

RReed Click to see attachment

HoopDaBoop•6/6/24, 5:10 AM

Thanks @Reed
This is slightly different to the profile you shared in the VPForce Profile Sharing section (as I was looking at that last night). Are you using a z-extension out of interest and that is why there is a 10% set for the balance spring

AAnthony No aggressive roll oscillation for you on hitting ETL either?

HoopDaBoop•6/6/24, 5:13 AM

Tested the Rhino for the first time last night and I thought the ETL vibration was twice as aggressive as the Huey. I soaked it down a bit

VPforceBot•6/6/24, 6:00 AM

:package:

RHINO #0563 Has Shipped!

nubbinsOP•6/6/24, 7:05 AM

@Touch_Of_Legend I ain't fancy enough for a shiny metal plaque, but I got a simple little idea to make up for it

Nnubbins @Touch_Of_Legend I ain't fancy enough for a shiny metal plaque, but I got a simp...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/6/24, 8:04 AM

Ohhhhhhh I’m really excited for the reveal!!!

..Eagle.I need my green name

Touch_Of_Legend•6/6/24, 8:05 AM

Did you post your completed build? If so maybe someone missed it. I’m sorry! (I’m not a mod just a normal user)

That’s how they know to change the names though so give it a double check

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•6/6/24, 8:29 AM

@Flynn (Phil) is that a warthog grip on the Virpil z extention and if it is the plugs etc the same.
Ie can a warthog natively fit on the vibril z extention as it looks like what im looking for

The FFbeast crowd likes to say that it is Rhino-but-better, but while there is truth to that stateme

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