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Oneill

OOneill Anyone in west or south wales want to earn some cash setting up my sim ? I need ...

Touch_Of_Legend

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/14/24, 7:05 PM

Yeah bro I wish I could help.

You could also (should also) reach out to car sims folks local on FB or local.

Reason is because car sim folks are just as crazy and setting up “stuff” is basically the same.

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/14/24, 7:05 PM

For info we live in the USA so haha

Oneill

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OneillOP•6/14/24, 7:06 PM

How about a free holiday and £59 lol.

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/14/24, 7:07 PM

Hahaha plus car sim folks also know about FFB. The top tier racing stuff is also FFB systems and hard hard core stuff apparently

SamNFTY

SSamNFTY You're addicted to the F-4? I wouldn't have known (highly sarcastic, lookin at y...

Diverzant

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Diverzant•6/14/24, 7:48 PM

Hahahha yeah, I know its hard to spot

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Littlesack•6/14/24, 11:38 PM

Is there any harm in leaving the base powered on for long periods? Or should I always disable it when not in use?

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Ice•6/14/24, 11:52 PM

I always turn mine off and unplug it after use because I am overly cautious. I'm always worried about somehow hitting the cable and breaking it off or damaging the port.

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 12:32 AM

It shouldn't hurt if to be powered, but also won't hurt to be unpowered

Littlesack

LLittlesack Is there any harm in leaving the base powered on for long periods? Or should I a...

Touch_Of_Legend

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/15/24, 8:17 AM

Due to the fact it can move when games start before you put your hand on the stick..

And can whack the end stops pretty hard

You should ALWAYS power down the unit with the Emergency Stop.

When powering up the unit grab and hold the stick steady so as to avoid it accidentally taking a hard smack against the end stops.

Mine has never done it.. my Rhino is tame like a puppy but I also never turn it above 60%

You can read stories of dudes who got whacked in the junk or whose sticks smack the tables or whatever is around.

So… Hold stick the whole time unless in game and on trim.

Hold stick while powering on the unit and hold the stick when you power it down.

No need to unplug as the emergency stop is a physical stop switch so the power is cut.

Unplugging is good practice and will extend the life of the PSU but it’s no big deal when using a real switch like the stop switches.

No amount of power can jump those switches so you good to go.

But yeah… hold it before you start and never ever leave the stop switch open.

Stop switch… now add HOTAS cover and she’s safe

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 8:40 AM

I'm curious about the E stop killing power to EVERYTHING and not just the motor drivers

Scarlet

SScarlet I'm curious about the E stop killing power to EVERYTHING and not just the motor ...

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/15/24, 9:31 AM

Well technically the board is powered by the USB but the motors are what make the stick jump

So I should say the E stop kills all power to the motors but the unit can still be plugged in and mess with the software that’s the safest way to experiment with settings

That’s for keeping me honest

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/15/24, 9:34 AM

The same ideas apply though..

Just be sure when you twist the stop switch and turn it on you’re holding the stick.

Otherwise… you might get whacked

Touch_Of_Legend

TTouch_Of_Legend Well technically the board is powered by the USB but the motors are what make th...

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 9:36 AM

Oh cool XD

Thanks for helping cover my chronic lack of research

Scarlet

SScarlet Oh cool XD Thanks for helping cover my chronic lack of research 👍

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/15/24, 9:38 AM

We’re all just students of the game.

Here there are no masters so we all just do the best we can and pass as much info around as possible.

It’s A LOT of stuff that goes into the Rhino so don’t feel bad.

I’m constantly learning about features (whole freaking features) I didn’t know existed lol

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 9:38 AM

Touch_Of_Legend

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/15/24, 9:39 AM

Like… how did I not know that..

And it’s okay that’s what makes the hive mind so much stronger

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 9:40 AM

I was a tiny bit worried how windows and DCS would handle the USB dropping out with the E stop. Glad to hear that doesn't happen

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Flo-Soft•6/15/24, 1:30 PM

I don't own a Rhino (yet), but several other (FFB) devices. I am using a power strip with individual switches for each socket so I can activate the main power (220V) for each device as needed and can also switch of the whole thing with the main switch of the power strip. Additionally I am using an USB hub with individual on/off switches for each port (Sabrent works very well for me). So I can power on and off each USB device easily for the configuration I want to use. And at the end of a session all can be powered off, so no unnecessary waste of energy and increased lifetime of all electronic parts.

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Fletch•6/15/24, 2:52 PM

Thanks @walmis for helping with fedex/customs clearance shenanigans! My Rhino has made it to it’s new home and getting installed today! Just in time to try it out on the new Kiowa in DCS. Very excited…

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FarFutureFox•6/15/24, 7:56 PM

My stick’s C of G is rearwards due to the gooseneck shaft and heavy Warthog grip, meaning it naturally pulls back. I want to compensate for this so that for a loose helicopter cyclic I don’t have to counter the rearwards force with my hand, pushing forwards. I realise I can do this using the Spring setting, but this isn’t the loose feel I want. It also doesn’t centre it fully. What else can I do?

Scarlet

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 8:10 PM

Lead and a hose clamp

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•6/15/24, 8:18 PM

@FarFutureFox I had the Same issue and found a setting I think was called static rode or so thing similar that can adjust the center position for the weight and balance of your stick

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FarFutureFox•6/15/24, 8:21 PM

“Static rode”?? No idea what rode is. I’ll have a look in the manual… thanks!

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Scarlet•6/15/24, 9:03 PM

I assume they ment "mode". I too have heard about something like that: the software tries to compensate for the CoG without effecting the rest of the stick feel

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox My stick’s C of G is rearwards due to the gooseneck shaft and heavy Warthog grip...

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corbu1•6/15/24, 9:04 PM

I use balance spring effect for this and adaptive centering on the spring effect

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox My stick’s C of G is rearwards due to the gooseneck shaft and heavy Warthog grip...

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mechsicko•6/15/24, 9:10 PM

Mechanical counterbalance

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TonyZ2525•6/15/24, 11:38 PM

@Thadiun Okona adds weight and therefore inertia to the stick which is bad for motors and all 3d printed parts

mechsicko

Mmechsicko Mechanical counterbalance

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mechsicko•6/16/24, 12:26 AM

Nope. Adds mass yea but the motors work less hard when sticks are mass balanced because they’re no longer constantly working to hold it up. Ff sticks dont tend to be used hands off so a little increase in mass is inconsequential.. it’s already fighting your hands lol

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mechsicko•6/16/24, 12:27 AM

If they freely swung around (hands free) by design then yes adding weights would increase wear as you state

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smitty•6/16/24, 4:53 AM

Example- the steel slug on my collective. Without it, the tiny 57BLF01 set with balance spring would warm up pretty quickly

corbu1

Ccorbu1 I use balance spring effect for this and adaptive centering on the spring effect

FarFutureFox

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FarFutureFox•6/16/24, 5:42 AM

Yes, I use adaptive centering but it doesn’t work all the way.

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FarFutureFox•6/16/24, 5:44 AM

With a counterweight, can the Rhino take the extra weight structurally? I get how the motors won’t be constantly in action, when balanced

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox Yes, I use adaptive centering but it doesn’t work all the way.

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walmis•6/16/24, 5:45 AM

Check the manual about balancing:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.9yc6t8idkb39

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VPforce Rhino Manual

VPforce RHINO FFB User Manual Version 0.7 (WIP) Table of Contents 1. Welcome 1 2. Getting Started 3 2.1. Technical Specifications 4 2.2. Physical Setup 5 2.2.1. The VKB Adapter 6 2.2.2. The WinWing Adapter 6 2.2.3. The RHINO Throw Limiter Adapters 7 2.3. Initial Connection and Updating th...

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox Yes, I use adaptive centering but it doesn’t work all the way.

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corbu1•6/16/24, 6:02 AM

The main thing is balance spring effect which works for me.

FarFutureFox

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FarFutureFox•6/16/24, 6:09 AM

I'll test that now, thanks. The Static Force setting also sounds useful.

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox I'll test that now, thanks. The Static Force setting also sounds useful.

corbu1

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corbu1•6/16/24, 6:12 AM

Read the chapter balancing the grip in the manual. This might help you

Reed

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Reed•6/16/24, 1:46 PM

Static force and balance spring really helped once tuned in. I usually start with center then use 4 separate extreme angles. Works great.

FarFutureFox

FFarFutureFox I'll test that now, thanks. The Static Force setting also sounds useful.

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Bob Bushman•6/16/24, 2:20 PM

I have the z-extension, so have more offset than your usual s-extension and use static force to 5% on the pitch(y?) axis centers it right up.

Bob Bushman

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Bob Bushman•6/16/24, 2:21 PM

A percent or two might be all you need with an s, depending how heavy your grip is of course.

Reed

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Reed•6/16/24, 5:00 PM

I’ve got mine front and left 10% and right and back 5%. Again I use center and extreme of each axis to find the sweet spot for the center

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corbu1•6/16/24, 7:08 PM

Interesting. I forgot about the static force. Checked my settings and realized I have it with 4% on the y axis.

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Dracks•6/17/24, 5:42 AM

Hi pilots!

I've finally finished configuring my Monstertech setup and my Rhino sits proudly in the center! Thanks @walmis for this extraordinary work and thanks to all those who work on the software! You guys are amazing!

I really encourage you (hum hum) to read the manual carefully as it contains a multitude of little details that will solve your questions! I made the mistake of not doing it right away, and it took me quite a while! After reading it (re hum hum) I was able to configure everything optimally! What an incredible slap in the face! It's really amazing!

Many thanks to you!

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VPforceBot•6/17/24, 8:54 AM

:package:

RHINO #0583 Has Shipped!

Dracks

DDracks Hi pilots! I've finally finished configuring my Monstertech setup and my Rhino...

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PlaguedRoo•6/17/24, 10:46 AM

Cool! Can we see how your rhino is mounted? More pics! Also, how are the honeycomb products mounted?

PlaguedRoo

PPlaguedRoo Cool! Can we see how your rhino is mounted? More pics! Also, how are the honeyco...

Dracks

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Dracks•6/17/24, 11:29 AM

Thanks for the comments, I'll send some photos later!

I can already tell:

Rhino with the Monstertech plate (the photo will show it well but you have to be very very low! The 20cm extension is a bit long for me...the 10cm a bit short...so I took the Z (10+5cm = ok but it didn't look great with 2 extensions...)
Honeycomb Bravo => I took the monstertech side support, and the plate for the TM Airbus throttle (I put it at 90° so that it holds well).

The photos are coming!

joleobee

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joleobee•6/17/24, 11:44 AM

Any chance there’s a group buy coming up for the Rhino motor kits?

joleobee

Jjoleobee Any chance there’s a group buy coming up for the Rhino motor kits?

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/17/24, 12:09 PM

Kits are sold on an individual basis.

Just sign up and grab it!

Dracks

DDracks Thanks for the comments, I'll send some photos later! I can already tell: - Rh...

Touch_Of_Legend

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Touch_Of_Legend•6/17/24, 12:10 PM

I love this set up as well and I love the Virpil covers! Might need something like that myself it’s sweet

Touch_Of_Legend

TTouch_Of_Legend I love this set up as well and I love the Virpil covers! Might need something li...

Dracks

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Dracks•6/17/24, 3:01 PM

Thanks ! Here's some photos ! Yes yes I still move something

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Dracks•6/17/24, 3:01 PM