I hadn't thought of that. What forces would you expect to feel through the collective?
I hadn't thought of that. What forces would you expect to feel through the collective?
SWell if possible the same as for example a ffb throttle stuff like AP/AI copilot/FCS inputs to the collective
SOk. I didn't know helo's had that, but I see how it would be helpful. Sounds similar to the A/T on a Boeing, if I'm understanding correctly.
SOne thing that i think would be nice is if ur in AP the collective moves since you might disengage the AP if you accidentally move the non ffb collective while a ffb collective wouldn't completely negate that, it would still mean that there isnt a significant difference in ingame and irl collective position
SBut honestly i dont know if thats even a thing that can be replicated or if i missunderstand stuff
SAnother solution would be to disable input from the collective while AP is on. Honestly, I figured helo AP was only the cyclic, and maybe the anti-torque pedals, but not collective
AHere's plans for a diy collective. Then add motor from descrition here on discord
http://hc625ma.org/simchair-mkiii/
http://hc625ma.org/simchair-mkiii/
JBest thing about the collective is in my eyes the feeling of vibrations/periodic effects and the comfortable configuration of friction, inertia, damping and travel. I'm loving it! 
MDidn't have Moza entering the flight sim/FF space on my bingo card this morning.. wonder if it will be any good?
SWho's Moza?
SNever heard of them
DThey make sim racing stuff
SInteresting. I'm guessing they've got some years of FFB experience
DOh definitely, they could potentially drop out a good FFB base
MBefore Moza jumped in the simracing scene they were a camera accessories manufacturer. They have a real logistics and manufacturing chain
(Moza do mid level FFB wheels for sim racing and get a good reputation on quality
Awhat's considered mid range in racing, mostly price-wise?
(Mid range as id the force used think about 5-10Nm compared to some more powerful wheels that can deliver over 30Nm force
(Think price wise they are around £500 for the base plus like sticks here they offer diff wheels
D400-500€ base
DR9 is pretty much the most popular base from them iirc at around 450€ plus the wheel and all the shenanigans you wish
MThey’re relatively new in the ff space, 2 years or something
DStill top 3 most popular among them, so they must be doing something good
DI mean its not Simucube but for the average at home racer its plenty good enough
BAnd almost thrustmaster presence in brick and mortar stores, or well I can find their kit on the usual CE storefronts.
BNo need to check my bank for currency rates and do VAT tax estimations.
MThey're gear is decent where they've made huge inroads has been putting up compelling offers, particularly on the entry side of things. My guess is the new ff base will be low on power, like 3-5nm but also probably $500. If they're smart they adopt the M36 stem, which I suspect they will. In simracing they adopted the same quick release Simagic used, making their rims mechanically compatible with their competitor.
JMoza is basically the more affordable Fanatec but with a smaller advertisement footprint. Also unlike Fanatec you can buy their products in stores, such as Microcenter. In fact there's a very high likelihood it will be possible to buy their flight sim gear in stores like Microcenter.
This is a big deal for flight sim accessibility because in such a scenario their direct competition are Logitech and Thrustmaster, primarily. Simply by being IN STORES they have a wider reach to the general populace than places like Virpil, VKB, and WinWing.
This is a big deal for flight sim accessibility because in such a scenario their direct competition are Logitech and Thrustmaster, primarily. Simply by being IN STORES they have a wider reach to the general populace than places like Virpil, VKB, and WinWing.
JAlso they have a few products that work on Xbox, so their push for flight sim may include Xbox compatibility with eyes focused on MSFS 2024 end of this year.
JIn other news, IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles summer sale is live on standalone and Steam https://x.com/il2bos/status/1803850937339121845
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MA likely side effect is more sims getting native ff
Ait can only help
TDoes the massive base get in the way at all?
TI was in Microcenter last year and they had quite a bit of flight sim stuff (yokes, panels, sticks, throttle, etc..)
JYeah, so add Moza's lineup to that
M9nm, direct force? aluminum construction , looks to use the m36 termination too ..
Nam legitimately prouder of the idiotic "desk mount" I've devised for rhino, than actually building the rhino 
J
JBig W for Moza, what a chad way to enter the flight sim scene
JCasually walks in, drops an FFB base
JBig W for the flight sim community as well
DCurious about price tho
C$499 maybe?
RWill you show a closer pic of the connection to the 8020 with your right angle connectors and the black plates.
SAussie confusion
Big W is a local big box store XD
Big W is a local big box store XD
Nprobably overkill, but it does weigh 10lb after all
Nchanged from the 5 hole back to 4 hole plates so i could sit a bit closer
CDid you get a soviet blue cover for a VKB MCG there? Or did you paint it?
Rwhere did you get the 4 hole plates?
Ncerakote
Nfrom foxx I think? they are pretty old, like with my original mounts from back then