VPforce Controls•2y ago

Someone asked who would be next? It's Winwing

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:22 PM

I feel like at this point we could just look at the order of speakers to know who will be next to announce ffb

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:23 PM

Year of FFB. At least with SimApp we kind of know what to expect from winwing's implementation for better and worse

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:23 PM

Yeah in a market stagnant for innovation and 'new' types of products, FFB will by default be far more exciting than anything else announced

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:24 PM

This year's FSE gets an 11/10 from me so far

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:26 PM

Still looking for more on the rudder front particularly since that's ripe. I don't we'll see anything interesting on the throttle front though

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:31 PM

Yeah agreed. Worst case there's always the FFB kit for MFG Crosswinds

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:34 PM

The worst case is actually brunner

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:34 PM

If one has the budget, yeah

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:34 PM

MFG crosswinds + ffb kit is some $800-900 when you factor shipping as well

AndyHill•6/21/24, 10:39 PM

has there been even a hint of the turbo hyper mega taurus ffb throttle yet?

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:41 PM

WinWing presentation ended no throttle hints.

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:41 PM

yeah big sadge

ddrake1984•6/21/24, 10:42 PM

I think throttle is coming, its just not ready to announce

Dddrake1984 I think throttle is coming, its just not ready to announce

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:44 PM

If you could try and get anything out of them while on the floor that would be great. Something to at least say the project isn't dead

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:44 PM

Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations from Virpil or VKB. Virpil will have a presentation at their own booth, and focus on their new Cadet lineup.

JJon (Bounty_V)Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations fro...

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:44 PM

Probably that new CM4 looking throttle with the cadet grip

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 10:45 PM

most likely yeah

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 10:46 PM

A good question is since other people have gone low end. A cadet joystick something to compete with ursa/NXT?

LLastRonin If you could try and get anything out of them while on the floor that would be g...

ddrake1984•6/21/24, 11:03 PM

Throttle will make a comeback

Ice•6/21/24, 11:09 PM

You know what, I honestly think we can likely thank Walmis for all these new sticks. Companies no doubt saw how well his base was selling and decided to finally jump back into the market.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:10 PM

It can't be a coincidence that they release stick bases right when Walmis is hundreds of pre-orders in lol

AndyHill•6/21/24, 11:15 PM

there's no doubt that whatever FFB is in a few years it's largely thanks to vpforce

AndyHill•6/21/24, 11:16 PM

they proved that it can be done and there's interest because it's awesome

Ice•6/21/24, 11:17 PM

I still think VPForce will be the top dog. The software is what makes these sticks great. The configurator and TelemFFB are works of art.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:17 PM

Makes the sim experience just incredible.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:18 PM

I wonder if TelemFFB could be made to work with the other bases eventually, maybe sell it as a paid software for non-Rhino owners.

LastRoninOP•6/21/24, 11:20 PM

I think it relies on firmware. If there was a way to flash maybe. I could also see maybe some companies being willing to make an API.

LeviathanDm•6/21/24, 11:22 PM

I agree. At some point sim community would need to erect a memorial somewhere for Walmis as a FFB pioneer.

Number481•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

Some of the more magical things about TelemFFB's capabilities are due to walmis adding functionality to the firmware that is not part of the standard DirectX API. Which is why TelemFFB talks to the Rhino at the driver level and not via DirectX, which is also why it doesn't work with other FFB devices.

LLastRonin Someone asked who would be next? It's Winwing

nubbins•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

looks expensive if the language is suggestive of the intended audience

NNumber481 Some of the more magical things about TelemFFB's capabilities are due to walmis ...

Ice•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

Makes sense. Your work and his work are just incredible. Huge hats off to y'all.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:24 PM

I was sold the moment I hopped into the UH-1H and it felt exactly like the real one I flew.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:24 PM

Was an eye opening moment and I knew I had made a good purchase.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:25 PM

Force trim on or off, the stick forces and feel was near identical to the real Huey.

Bob Bushman•6/21/24, 11:35 PM

Neat

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 12:44 AM

Does anyone ground mount this thing?

Scarlet•6/22/24, 1:18 AM

I intend to

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 1:23 AM

How so?

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 1:23 AM

Is there a commercial ground mount?

Ice•6/22/24, 2:18 AM

I just used a piece of nice looking plywood for the base of my setup.

Ice•6/22/24, 2:18 AM

My Rhino, and pedals are bolted to it.

OOld Prospector Does anyone ground mount this thing?

nubbins•6/22/24, 2:50 AM

i saw this a while ago 🧰support

OOld Prospector How so?

Scarlet•6/22/24, 3:49 AM

Same as Ice

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•6/22/24, 7:49 AM

Hello everyone. Due to time issues and no more free time for me I decided to sell off the kits that are in the making at a reduced price and then stop doing that.
I have 2 kits ready to ship and a few more that i ordered parts for and are in the making.
The new price is 350,- plus shipping.

At least i will finally have time to fly myself instead of preparing kits ll evenings;)
And my girl will also apprechiate having more time with me again.

JJon (Bounty_V)MFG crosswinds + ffb kit is some $800-900 when you factor shipping as well