Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations from Virpil or VKB. Vir

Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations from Virpil or VKB. Virpil will have a presentation at their own booth, and focus on their new Cadet lineup.

JJon (Bounty_V)Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations fro...

LastRonin•6/21/24, 10:44 PM

Probably that new CM4 looking throttle with the cadet grip

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•6/21/24, 10:45 PM

most likely yeah

LastRonin•6/21/24, 10:46 PM

A good question is since other people have gone low end. A cadet joystick something to compete with ursa/NXT?

LLastRonin If you could try and get anything out of them while on the floor that would be g...

ddrake1984•6/21/24, 11:03 PM

Throttle will make a comeback

Ice•6/21/24, 11:09 PM

You know what, I honestly think we can likely thank Walmis for all these new sticks. Companies no doubt saw how well his base was selling and decided to finally jump back into the market.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:10 PM

It can't be a coincidence that they release stick bases right when Walmis is hundreds of pre-orders in lol

AndyHill•6/21/24, 11:15 PM

there's no doubt that whatever FFB is in a few years it's largely thanks to vpforce

AndyHill•6/21/24, 11:16 PM

they proved that it can be done and there's interest because it's awesome

Ice•6/21/24, 11:17 PM

I still think VPForce will be the top dog. The software is what makes these sticks great. The configurator and TelemFFB are works of art.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:17 PM

Makes the sim experience just incredible.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:18 PM

I wonder if TelemFFB could be made to work with the other bases eventually, maybe sell it as a paid software for non-Rhino owners.

LastRonin•6/21/24, 11:20 PM

I think it relies on firmware. If there was a way to flash maybe. I could also see maybe some companies being willing to make an API.

LeviathanDm•6/21/24, 11:22 PM

I agree. At some point sim community would need to erect a memorial somewhere for Walmis as a FFB pioneer.

Number481•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

Some of the more magical things about TelemFFB's capabilities are due to walmis adding functionality to the firmware that is not part of the standard DirectX API. Which is why TelemFFB talks to the Rhino at the driver level and not via DirectX, which is also why it doesn't work with other FFB devices.

LLastRonin Someone asked who would be next? It's Winwing

nubbins•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

looks expensive if the language is suggestive of the intended audience

NNumber481 Some of the more magical things about TelemFFB's capabilities are due to walmis ...

Ice•6/21/24, 11:23 PM

Makes sense. Your work and his work are just incredible. Huge hats off to y'all.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:24 PM

I was sold the moment I hopped into the UH-1H and it felt exactly like the real one I flew.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:24 PM

Was an eye opening moment and I knew I had made a good purchase.

Ice•6/21/24, 11:25 PM

Force trim on or off, the stick forces and feel was near identical to the real Huey.

Bob Bushman•6/21/24, 11:35 PM

Neat

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 12:44 AM

Does anyone ground mount this thing?

Scarlet•6/22/24, 1:18 AM

I intend to

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 1:23 AM

How so?

Old Prospector•6/22/24, 1:23 AM

Is there a commercial ground mount?

Ice•6/22/24, 2:18 AM

I just used a piece of nice looking plywood for the base of my setup.

Ice•6/22/24, 2:18 AM

My Rhino, and pedals are bolted to it.

OOld Prospector Does anyone ground mount this thing?

nubbins•6/22/24, 2:50 AM

i saw this a while ago 🧰support

OOld Prospector How so?

Scarlet•6/22/24, 3:49 AM

Same as Ice

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•6/22/24, 7:49 AM

Hello everyone. Due to time issues and no more free time for me I decided to sell off the kits that are in the making at a reduced price and then stop doing that.
I have 2 kits ready to ship and a few more that i ordered parts for and are in the making.
The new price is 350,- plus shipping.

At least i will finally have time to fly myself instead of preparing kits ll evenings;)
And my girl will also apprechiate having more time with me again.

JJon (Bounty_V)MFG crosswinds + ffb kit is some $800-900 when you factor shipping as well

Daz_bike•6/22/24, 9:37 AM

Good value if you already have MFG's before FFB pedals were a thing.

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•6/22/24, 10:48 AM

I'm still using CH Products Pro pedals so I've got all sorts of freedom to upgrade

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David Hello everyone. Due to time issues and no more free time for me I decided to sel...

walmis•6/22/24, 11:29 AM

Thank you for your service

Stoned Kakapo•6/22/24, 1:40 PM

Any news on the mfg ffb conversion kit?

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David Hello everyone. Due to time issues and no more free time for me I decided to sel...

JIGGAwest•6/22/24, 2:03 PM

Sent you a PM

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•6/22/24, 3:09 PM

https://x.com/WINWING_SIM/status/1804525007818887435

WINWING (@WINWING_SIM) on X

We recorded a refueling operation trajectory in the air! Isn't it interesting?

#WINWING #CyberTaurus #JoystickBase

Twitter

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6/22/24, 2:41 PM

Xaero Zero•6/22/24, 3:23 PM

things getting crazier )

Bob Bushman•6/22/24, 3:37 PM

Honestly thought winwing was a year out,

Bob Bushman•6/22/24, 3:38 PM

will be interesting what the impact will be once these release, I'm suspecting there might a big drop off on the queue for rhino's....

Bob Bushman•6/22/24, 3:40 PM

Although does make sense to come out with this stuff right before the launch of msfs 2024.

voidkitty•6/22/24, 3:46 PM

I wish there were more manufacturers working on yokes haha. So far I think it's just Brunner, simionic, and flitesim.com

Reed•6/22/24, 3:50 PM

My biggest curiosity is how all these different systems will work compared to the rhino. I’d be interested in a direct drive and all metal construction. I’ll never sell my rhino it’s a collector item, atleast to me. The software and work done by all in this discord is amazing. I feel like vpforce started the ball rolling and the next year will be the year of ffb. If I’m honest I’d love to see an all metal rhino with largest motors etc. special edition so to speak. It’s great to be a right simmer.

Number481•6/22/24, 3:52 PM

I'd be first in line for a production SuperRhino

Bob Bushman•6/22/24, 3:52 PM

Suppose you could just buy bigger motor kit, a psu and make a new box

Bob Bushman•6/22/24, 3:53 PM

adjust the belts etc

Banan Pajen•6/22/24, 3:53 PM

The FF Beast base is metal

Number481•6/22/24, 3:54 PM

Several folks are already using the large motors in DIY bases....

Reed•6/22/24, 4:03 PM

I’m not a diy when it comes to electronics etc. I’d rather buy a finished product. I built my sim pit and I build my pc’s. I also build rifles etc but small electronics and such I’ll leave to the experts. A super rhino would be very cool. Truly some of the best parts of the rhino is @Number481 work on teleffb and @walmis awesome development.

JJIGGAwest Sent you a PM

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•6/22/24, 4:10 PM

Answered.

RReed I’m not a diy when it comes to electronics etc. I’d rather buy a finished produc...

Number481•6/22/24, 4:21 PM

Hopefully you enjoy today's incoming update!

JJon (Bounty_V)MFG crosswinds + ffb kit is some $800-900 when you factor shipping as well

Hiob•6/22/24, 5:14 PM

When you have a 3D-Printer, you only need the motor kit from Walmis, a spool of filament and 50 bucks worth of nuts and bolts and some parts….

Looking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations from Virpil or VKB. Vir

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