Universal Blue•2y ago

Tbh wouldn't the whole ublue ecosystem make more sense as a nixos image? That seems more in line wit

Tbh wouldn't the whole ublue ecosystem make more sense as a nixos image? That seems more in line with the stated goals

SSaki Tbh wouldn't the whole ublue ecosystem make more sense as a nixos image? That se...

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:29 AM

Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:29 AM

It's pretty intresting that bazzite doesn't come with zsh out of the box

Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:30 AM

But gives tmux

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:30 AM

the end user images like bazzite, bluefin, and aurora are intended to be user friendly

JJazze (plz ping when reply)But gives tmux 🤔

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:31 AM

the ublue "base images" come with this

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:31 AM

https://github.com/ublue-os/main/blob/main/packages.json

GitHub

main/packages.json at main · ublue-os/main

OCI base images of Fedora with batteries included. Contribute to ublue-os/main development by creating an account on GitHub.

SakiOP•6/27/24, 4:31 AM

the reliability of a Chromebook, but with the flexibility and power of a traditional Linux desktop.

These images represent what's possible when a community focuses on sharing best practices via automation and collaboration. One common language between dev and ops, and it's finally come to the desktop.

We also provide tools for users to build their own image using our templates and processes, which can be used to ship custom configurations to all of your machines, or finally make the Linux distribution you've long wished for, but never had the tools to create.

SakiOP•6/27/24, 4:31 AM

That's literally describing a nixOS repository

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:32 AM

different ways of tooling things

imide•6/27/24, 4:32 AM

probably a really stupid question but
i use some apps and utils not within flatpak (gui) and brew (cli)
am i kinda fucked? (by that i mean is there an easier way than distrobox and exporting it?)

imide•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

like i use nix quite often along with thorium browser
im new to nix but i love it and mostly use it for devenv/nixpacks

Iimide probably a really stupid question but i use some apps and utils not within flatp...

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

not recommended but you can layer it

imide•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

yeah i saw that

imide•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

again looks quite annoying

Ttryhardsoccermomswag the ublue "base images" come with this

Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

I downloaded the bazzite gnome nvidia Asus

JJazze (plz ping when reply)I downloaded the bazzite gnome nvidia Asus

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

i understand that

imide•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth, looks for UTD packages, asks which preferred or whatever and distrobox-exports for u

imide•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

to avoid the headaches

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

im saying the base images, what bazzite is built on, has that package

Iimide i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth...

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

eventually fedora atomic will be bootc + dnf

imide•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

right now we have to use

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

as basically a crutch

Ttryhardsoccermomswag not recommended but you can layer it

Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what exactly is the issue with layering?

imide•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

Iimide also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

breaks selinux

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

won't return

Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

i'm assuming it would just create your usual package manager issues of multiple dependency versions

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

Brew & Distrobox replace it

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

dependency issues just like a traditional package manager + slower updates + those dependency issues break updates especially for major releases

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

yeah

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what you mentioned + slower

imide•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

Iimide with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I wouldn't call them issues, these are just differences

KKyle Gospo Brew & Distrobox replace it

imide•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i use nixpacks and devenv however

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Bazzite is an atomic image, things are just done very differently

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

yeah this is just fedora atomic desktop but gaming packages/tweaks out of the box

imide•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Iris•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I mostly want to install a window manager at some point to replace gnome, but i suppose at that point I could just fork the template right?

SakiOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you don't want to use a container, then yeah this would not be the distro for you

Iimide they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

your only option would be to use the nix installer & disable selinux

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

obviously we cannot ship that to end users, but nothing stops you from doing it

SSaki Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you ...

imide•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i mean i use containers a lot

imide•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

Iimide but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:38 AM