I hate thet all the grips are going light weight metal. I prefer the lighter alpha grip. Also makes

I hate thet all the grips are going light weight metal. I prefer the lighter alpha grip. Also makes tuning the rhino center point easier than with my heavy warthog grip.

AndyHill•6/28/24, 7:41 PM

well the warthog is exceptionally heavy

RReed I hate thet all the grips are going light weight metal. I prefer the lighter alp...

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一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden•6/28/24, 8:32 PM

Tianhang's use nylon with CNCed aluminum connector/locking ring (and they have otto-esque push buttons and triggers
Their f-16/a-10c grips are under 400g iirc. excellent choice for FFB bases

一一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden Tianhang's use nylon with CNCed aluminum connector/locking ring (and they have o...

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:49 PM

If he used an analog switch for paddle switch that could double as a brake lever, I would have already bought one of his super nice grips

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:49 PM

unfortunately, he doesn't

LLastRonin Looks like the Virpil FLNKR grip has modules like the VKB Gunfighter Ultimate

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:50 PM

Might be better ergonomics too as it reflects a newer evolution of the Russian design

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:51 PM

But the weight distribution might be different

Nnubbins If he used an analog switch for paddle switch that could double as a brake lever...

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一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden•6/28/24, 8:51 PM

there is a rumor that he's making a soviet style stick

一一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden there is a rumor that he's making a soviet style stick

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:52 PM

would be nice if he can make the first eastern stick to actually have triple triggers

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:52 PM

But I'm not sure I would want a nylon flanker stick

Old Prospector•6/28/24, 8:53 PM

Flnkr seems like a good candidate for cerakote!

Nnubbins But I'm not sure I would want a nylon flanker stick

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一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden•6/28/24, 8:55 PM

it seems at least for the f-16 he offers cnc alumi option, with a price..

OOld Prospector Flnkr seems like a good candidate for cerakote!

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:59 PM

I'm gonna go broke at this rate!

nubbins•6/28/24, 8:59 PM

the smooth finish might be durable enough not to warrant it

Old Prospector•6/28/24, 9:17 PM

But is it sukhoi blue

nubbins•6/28/24, 9:51 PM

oh yeah @=RS= ddrake1984 you got hands on with the FLNKR at the show right? Does it have triple triggers? it looks like it in the photos

nubbins•6/28/24, 9:51 PM

1 AP and 2 flip

nubbins•6/28/24, 9:56 PM

never mind, all it took was to watch the trailer

finally a faithful representation of flanker controls

LastRonin•6/28/24, 9:59 PM

I hope they do something about the gating on the hats though

Nnubbins never mind, all it took was to watch the trailer 😁 finally a faithful represen...

ddrake1984•6/28/24, 11:25 PM

Agreed, I feel this is likely one of, if not the best reconstruction of a russian grip to date

amadeus•6/28/24, 11:31 PM

I want to get a metal grip for the rhino, def kinda vibin this new Virpil one too :thonk:

AndyHill•6/28/24, 11:34 PM

a lot depends on what kind of hats it has

AndyHill•6/28/24, 11:34 PM

I really prefer mcgu hats over the mongoos ones

AAndyHill I really prefer mcgu hats over the mongoos ones

nubbins•6/28/24, 11:39 PM

i can't tell if they made improvements for this one

nubbins•6/28/24, 11:39 PM

the hat dust covers are nice

一一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden Tianhang's use nylon with CNCed aluminum connector/locking ring (and they have o...

ReedOP•6/29/24, 12:24 AM

Got a link

Aamadeus I want to get a metal grip for the rhino, def kinda vibin this new Virpil one to...

ddrake1984•6/29/24, 12:36 AM

it is frigging cool dude

RReed Got a link

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一五式艦上戦闘爆撃機Kyūden•6/29/24, 4:18 AM

https://dcadf4-5.myshopify.com/ https://discord.gg/mHVvczkZ

TIANHANG SPACE

Aamadeus I want to get a metal grip for the rhino, def kinda vibin this new Virpil one to...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•6/29/24, 5:16 AM

I Hope they start preorders soon. Sexy piece of Hardware. Want one

amadeus•6/29/24, 5:30 AM

Would it just work on the rhino if plugged in? Or would it require a firmware update?

Aamadeus Would it just work on the rhino if plugged in? Or would it require a firmware up...

walmis•6/29/24, 5:32 AM

It would probably 99% work if the hardware button/hat layout is somewhat consistent with their other grips

RoboGeoff•6/29/24, 11:33 AM

Having resin RealSimulator F-16 and F-18 grips, I never want a "metal" grip. I guess it's preferable to cheap plastic

RRoboGeoff Having resin RealSimulator F-16 and F-18 grips, I never want a "metal" grip. I g...

Arno•6/29/24, 11:53 AM

But the price... ouch

RRoboGeoff Having resin RealSimulator F-16 and F-18 grips, I never want a "metal" grip. I g...

PiNKSH!T•6/29/24, 11:55 AM

yeah a light weight high quality plastic or resin is way better with the Rhino imho. A really nice light weight metal would be good too, the WW F-18 grip isn't too heavy, then compare to the VKB mcgu which feels like a club on the end of an extension. I blame TM for the "metal grips are superior quality" idea

RoboGeoff•6/29/24, 11:56 AM

except Thrustmaster wasn't. That painted cheap cast alloy is terrible. They were maybe superior to the cheap joystick plastic shells of the 2000s

Bob Bushman•6/29/24, 12:03 PM

The buttons where heavier, and it helps when your only competition has design flaws in everything causing them to fail after a few months.

I found it interesting how my warthog throttle and virpil throttle weighed exactly the same, people still seem to think, "It's heavy, it must be quality."

The warthog had double steel bottom plates with half a dozen lead weights attached, the rest apart from the stamped sheets on top of the grip is plastic and glue.

I've gotten less flex out things I've 3d printed than those throttle levers.

RRoboGeoff except Thrustmaster wasn't. That painted cheap cast alloy is terrible. They were...

PiNKSH!T•6/29/24, 12:04 PM

oh yeah I agree TM metal was/is crap, but their marketing was good to get ppl to believe that metal must mean better.

Diverzant•6/29/24, 12:12 PM

TM Warthog is like 100 years old now, when you compare it to the plastic grips of the time it came out, the metal TM really wasnt that bad. Now though its just outdated by a mile

AndyHill•6/29/24, 12:15 PM

F-16EX and MCGU weigh about the same, the latter is more top heavy, though

DDiverzant TM Warthog is like 100 years old now, when you compare it to the plastic grips o...

PiNKSH!T•6/29/24, 12:16 PM

tbh from what I've heard the Tm had decent buttons, hats, switches. I just like crapping on TM

they had the high end hotas market to themself & did no innovation etc. it took them 15yrs to change the tdc on the throttle. They have finally bought out a cam/spring base & the other companies are starting to move to ffb I wonder how long it'll take them to release one? 15yrs again.

Stryker990•6/29/24, 12:18 PM

everybody who is still recommending TM is just coping because they paid so much and ive paid less for a superior product from another company

PPiNKSH!T tbh from what I've heard the Tm had decent buttons, hats, switches. I just like ...

Diverzant•6/29/24, 12:19 PM

My first hotas was Warthog. The niple tdc is horrible and you must swap it out, buttons are heavy thats for sure and the thing is all in all reliable and feels solid. Throttle levers are ass, the base is ok but it definitely feels outdated and in dire need of an update

Diverzant•6/29/24, 12:20 PM

atm thers absolutely no need to buy TM, way better options for same or less around

Stryker990•6/29/24, 12:44 PM

oh god i just looked up TM website...hornet stick with base for .......600$....for that price you can get a Winwing hornet stick+base WITH a hornet throttle+base

Diverzant•6/29/24, 12:46 PM

Yeah, their pricing is as if they dont want to sell those things

Stryker990•6/29/24, 12:49 PM

what i forgot to mention: with the WW offering you still have money left over .... well the only thing you DONT get with the WW offering would be a stick twist axis which would costs 80$ making it more expensive than TM

Stryker990•6/29/24, 12:50 PM

but then again for ~40$ more you get roughly the same as TM + a throttle

so i would say at that point who cares about that bit extra

DDiverzant atm thers absolutely no need to buy TM, way better options for same or less arou...

PiNKSH!T•6/29/24, 12:52 PM

WW needs to swap out the top 3 way on their f-15 e throttle grip for a 4 way+push hat & they could sell it as an A-10 throttle, they would then offer A-10, F-15E, F-16 & F-18 all of them using the same base too

Stryker990•6/29/24, 12:54 PM

The A-10 throttle (only because nobody else currently offers a a-10 specific throttle) and low end sticks like the t16000 are the only semi worthwhile offerings TM has imo

SStryker990 oh god i just looked up TM website...hornet stick with base for .......600$....f...

hcee.•6/29/24, 2:23 PM

auch.. I checked that I paid 335 eur in 2011 for the whole Warthog kit (joystick + throttle). Inflation calculator says it would equal 424,50 eur in 2023's money.

Hhcee.auch.. I checked that I paid 335 eur in 2011 for the whole Warthog kit (joystick...

hcee.•6/29/24, 2:27 PM

The throttle still feels as new. The stick base's gimbal broke when I used a 10 cm extension with the stick :/

I hate thet all the grips are going light weight metal. I prefer the lighter alpha grip. Also makes

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