and in return the community develops software that they monetize
and in return the community develops software that they monetize
OExactly, why would they need anybody to work on it? It still sells :clueless:
KDo they even still update it?
KI have no idea lol
Pthey also sell linux :smirk:
KAt that point that's being upset about open source in general, I can't think of a single company that doesn't eventually monetize open source projects
Vlmfao
KAh yes, the Ol' Microsoft Linux
VYes, both the Java and Bedrock (C++) versions.
Pyes
IIt's a pet peeve, yea
Pstop making pets out of peeves
VBazzite WSL when
OIMO monetizing open-source/free-as-in-freedom software in some way is good for software ecosystems
Pif you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
Oeven having donations is better than not
Peverything needs money to be sustainable
KI mean, many very important projects have a hell of a time getting any money
Kits a real problem
JI don't think anyone's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big projects
Pi don't disagree
Kcompanies just use em and don't support it
Pthey would stop happening entirely if they got zero money whatsoever
IDonations I understand, but when monopolistic companies get involved, it just seems they're doing it for the free labor. Then they lock down the source so you can't tell if it's trustworthy
Pthat's why we have licences to stop them doing that
KLicenses that deny commercial use by any entity over a certain market value! 
Let's do it!
Let's do it!JI think we should just let the NSA fund all of our backdoors software
JFUTO moment 
ILicenses only work for people that can afford the lawyers to support them
KI mean, if I have to pick the NSA or the CCP, I'm not actually sure which I'd choose.
Pnobody has ever thought about this before :smirk:
Pwe are the big smart cabal
JI mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an American citizen
Jbut that doesn't count for everyone
KI am a software anarchist. I care not for licenses! lol
KYeah I'm not American, so it's really 50/50 lol
Pthe department of defense lives and breathes on FOSS
ODoD loves being able to audit the code their systems use, it makes total sense
PJI think by and large it's a good thing that governments fund development, it's just the conflicts of interest are where things get fun
Jalso Ghidra is pretty dope
Pthere's even a whole section about how the licences are most certainly enforceable
Pghidra was a funny thing
Pfrom what i heard through the grapevine it was kinda ass before it went public unless you were trained on it
VNo joke, tried to joke about Bazzite having an NSA backdoor and now our router has stopped receiving service
Pfuck you get verizon'd
Jchecks out but dragons
Jmany such cases
Pit was also pretty god damn awful when it first went public lmao
JYouTubeSam Abdullaev
Linus Torvalds Admits He's Been Asked To Insert Backdoor Into Linux
LinuxCon & CloudOpen North America 2013 - Linux Kernel Panel
LinuxCon & CloudOpen North America 2013 - Linux Kernel Panel
