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Onihikage
Exactly, why would they need anybody to work on it? It still sells :clueless:
Exactly
, why would they need anybody to work on it
? It still sells
:clueless
:
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Onihikage
Exactly, why would they need anybody to work on it? It still sells :clueless:
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
Do they even still update it
?
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
I have no idea lol
K
Kamquat
I mean, they do SELL minecraft
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
they also sell linux
:smirk
:
I
ImNotDrumatic
and in return the community develops software that they monetize
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
At that point that
's being upset about open source in general
, I can
't think of a single company that doesn
't eventually monetize open source projects
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
lmfao
P
Pez
they also sell linux :smirk:
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
Ah yes
, the Ol
' Microsoft Linux
K
Kamquat
Do they even still update it?
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
Yes
, both the Java and Bedrock
(C
+
+
) versions
.
K
Kamquat
Ah yes, the Ol' Microsoft Linux
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
yes
K
Kyle Gospo
At that point that's being upset about open source in general, I can't think of ...
I
ImNotDrumatic
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
It
's a pet peeve
, yea
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
stop making pets out of peeves
P
Pez
yes
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:21 AM
if you mean something like Azure or a cloud OS I mean yes but no
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
Bazzite WSL when
O
Onihikage
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
IMO monetizing open
-source
/free
-as
-in
-freedom software in some way is good for software ecosystems
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
if you don
't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
O
Onihikage
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
even having donations is better than not
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
everything needs money to be sustainable
P
Pez
if you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
I mean
, many very important projects have a hell of a time getting any money
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
its a real problem
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
I don
't think anyone
's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big projects
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
i don
't disagree
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:22 AM
companies just use em and don
't support it
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
they would stop happening entirely if they got zero money whatsoever
I
ImNotDrumatic
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Donations I understand
, but when monopolistic companies get involved
, it just seems they
're doing it for the free labor
. Then they lock down the source so you can
't tell if it
's trustworthy
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
that
's why we have licences to stop them doing that
J
Johnny Appleseed
I don't think anyone's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big ...
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Licenses that deny commercial use by any entity over a certain market value
!
Let
's do it
!
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
I think we should just let the NSA fund all of our
backdoors
software
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
FUTO moment
I
ImNotDrumatic
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
Licenses only work for people that can afford the lawyers to support them
J
Johnny Appleseed
I think we should just let the NSA fund all of our ~~backdoors~~ software
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
I mean
, if I have to pick the NSA or the CCP
, I
'm not actually sure which I
'd choose
.
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:23 AM
nobody has ever thought about this before
:smirk
:
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
we are the big smart cabal
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an American citizen
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
but that doesn
't count for everyone
P
Pez
nobody has ever thought about this before :smirk:
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
I am a software anarchist
. I care not for licenses
! lol
J
Johnny Appleseed
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an...
K
Kamquat
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
Yeah I
'm not American
, so it
's really 50
/50 lol
J
Johnny Appleseed
I mean theoretically at least the NSA has some interests aligned with mine as an...
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
the department of defense lives and breathes on FOSS
O
Onihikage
OP
•
7/5/24, 1:24 AM
DoD loves being able to audit the code their systems use
, it makes total sense
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:25 AM
https://dodcio.defense.gov/Open-Source-Software-FAQ/
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
I think by and large it
's a good thing that governments fund development
, it
's just the conflicts of interest are where things get fun
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
also Ghidra is pretty dope
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
there
's even a whole section about how the licences are most certainly enforceable
J
Johnny Appleseed
also Ghidra is pretty dope
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:26 AM
ghidra was a funny thing
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
from what i heard through the grapevine it was kinda ass before it went public unless you were trained on it
V
Valerie
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
No joke
, tried to joke about Bazzite having an NSA backdoor and now our router has stopped receiving service
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
fuck you get verizon
'd
P
Pez
from what i heard through the grapevine it was kinda ass before it went public u...
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
checks out but dragons
V
Valerie
No joke, tried to joke about Bazzite having an NSA backdoor and now our router h...
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
many such cases
J
Johnny Appleseed
checks out but dragons
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
it was also pretty god damn awful when it first went public lmao
J
Johnny Appleseed
•
7/5/24, 1:27 AM
https://youtu.be/7gRsgkdfYJ8?t=9
YouTube
Sam Abdullaev
Linus Torvalds - Backdoor In Linux
Linus Torvalds Admits He
's Been Asked To Insert Backdoor Into Linux
LinuxCon
& CloudOpen North America 2013
- Linux Kernel Panel
P
Pez
•
7/5/24, 1:28 AM
pretty sure they only did it because the old business model of copying hex
-rays wasn
't sustainable
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