Kthe official posiiton of the KDE SIG is that any X11 issue is closed + won't fix
Kour position is that we will remove X11 from our package lists by F41, and then close+won't fix
Ptoo much effort tbh
KX11 is dead
KPoor X11.
Pyou should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
Pthey complain about broken x11 instead :hahasuffering:
KI'd rather they layer it and then open an issue so I can close + won't fix it in complete confidence by virtue of the package being there in
rpm-ostree status
MI can even screenshot the glitchiest in x11
MAnd yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stuff need it and can’t run Wayland
Kthat is what XWayland is for
Pthey can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
Kwhich is not going away, just as pipewire-pulse isn't going away
KThey'd also likely not be running bazzite to do so
MIt’s broken
Psupporting haskell developers isn't our mission here LMFAO
K"it's broken" he says on the distro that plays games entirely in XWayland
Kthere are also fully featured nested x11 compositors you can use
KI will not entertain this
Pi want to "play elden ring without screen tearing"
MNo I can’t, that’s right up there with saying “if you don’t like it here move”
Pnot support 80s software
KI've been using X11 since it was Xfree86. It's about time it got put out to pasture. It's kludges on top of hacks on top of patches at this point.
Hwhat does haskell even have to do with windowing protocols what
Pyeah and that's actually the prerogative set
Pyou can go use an ancient LTS distro if you need LTS software
Pnobody is stopping you from not getting updates but yourself at that point
KOr run a VM. Or Distrobox and VNC to yourself.
Pyou don't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland for some random ass industrial control software from the 80s
Pyou can even start your own distro that supports those users
KDon't make the COBOL programmers come after you.
Poh no
Pit's ok i'll just show their boss chatgpt
MPcobol programmer in a can
Hwhat are they going to do, throw walking canes at them?
P(he's not very good but that's ok it's a cobol programmer in 2024)
KIEEE Spectrum
Study finds that while AI can be great, it also struggles due to training limitations
Pi'm well aware
Pi am being facetious
KI've used chatgpt to write code, but just for myself cause lazy and I was curious.
KI'd give it an 7/10.
Pyou can get it to a 9 if you are really intense about your setup
MWow, literally absurd responses
Pwtfym
Pwhat
Phow the god damn shit do you think bazzite ended up happening
Psomebody went "i want to support $USERS"
Psomebody else provided a space for that person to support $USERS
