the way the stick 'jumps' onscreen points to some other axis binding in msfs conflicting. what othe

the way the stick 'jumps' onscreen points to some other axis binding in msfs conflicting. what other peripherals are plugged in? also what aircraft is this? dont recognize it.

Ssmitty the way the stick 'jumps' onscreen points to some other axis binding in msfs con...

Oneill•7/10/24, 7:33 PM

It’s the flight design , I’ve got my FFB rudder pedals , keyboard, V3 motion rig, warthog throttle and the PICO.
It doesn’t do it if I remove the stick and plug the stick base in.

smittyOP•7/10/24, 7:35 PM

you mean the grip itself?

Ssmitty you mean the grip itself?

Oneill•7/10/24, 7:36 PM

Yep.
It worked fine before I had the Rhino.
I’m so shit at these things

smittyOP•7/10/24, 7:38 PM

can i see your msfs controls settings in a few screenshots. also in telemffb, go to help menu, create support bundle, and paste that file here

Ssmitty can i see your msfs controls settings in a few screenshots. also in telemffb, g...

Oneill•7/10/24, 7:45 PM

I’m out now, to be honest I don’t even know what telemffb is, I was hoping that it was just plug and play for the money.
Thanks for trying to help but I’m going to have to pay someone to do it for me.

smittyOP•7/10/24, 7:48 PM

telemffb is required for it to do anything in msfs. download this and install. https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/TelemFFB/VPforce-TelemFFB-20240705.zip
run it when running msfs. remove ANY axis (pitch roll rudder) binding in msfs.

Oneill•7/10/24, 7:51 PM

I shall try it tomorrow.
Thanks for your help.

OOneill I’m out now, to be honest I don’t even know what telemffb is, I was hoping that ...

Touch_Of_Legend•7/10/24, 9:38 PM

The VP Force configurator is a “set up, calibrate, and Keybinds” software.

It does control the main effects but they are generalized.

Telemffb is the software you set the various effects “per game” and “per module”.

So you tell Telemffb you’re playing DCS and it pulls info from DCS while it’s running and using that data it produces “effects” that you can set the strength and intensity of.

Telem saves the profile and now everytime you fire up DCS and jump in the Jug (p-47) the screen on Telem says “DCS” and says what module your flying “p47” and it will play the effects, at the intensity, you previously set OR that are just streaming in from DCS.

I assume it’s somewhat similar for MSFS but I haven’t tried the Rhino with MSFS.

Others for sure have so it works I’m just trying to explain what and why you want to use both the configurator AND Telem and keep them both open while you play.

(Minimize them or whatever)

smittyOP•7/10/24, 10:02 PM

no need to keep configurator open.

amadeus•7/10/24, 11:31 PM

+1 to what smitty said (and also -- the configurator is only the calibration/firmware settings app, it does NOT provide any effects, only allows you to set limits/calibrations/gain maps/firmware level button configurations. It does not need to be running as its settings gets stored into the device, assuming you press Store Settings, a 2nd step after using Apply Settings). Also MSFS is very different than DCS because MSFS does NOT have native FFB support. It only works through TelemFFB, but also has some setup/requirements steps (definitely refer to the TelemFFB manual for setting this up, if you're not very savvy with computers and hardware, MSFS is the hard mode relative to DCS and IL2 for force feedback)

Aamadeus +1 to what smitty said (and also -- the configurator is _only_ the calibration/f...

Touch_Of_Legend•7/11/24, 12:05 AM

Nope it doesn’t provide the effects but it controls them.

If you turn them off in the config they don’t exist for Telem

Same as the pots will override whatever other settings you use.

For me I always run it all but I’m also ALWAYS messing with something… like I’m never ever set up I feel like lol

Touch_Of_Legend•7/11/24, 12:15 AM

If MSFS is hard mode for FFB I don’t know if I could even handle it hahaha

DCS and all the various gear and programs is already A LOT to handle for this old guy

smittyOP•7/11/24, 1:24 AM

eh, i dont know if its "hard mode", but telemffb is certainly doing a lot more work behind the scenes with msfs

PokePoke•7/11/24, 11:44 AM

web usb firmware update button is not clicking l, it is connected

PokePoke•7/11/24, 11:44 AM

anybody help me please

PokePoke•7/11/24, 11:45 AM

current version is v1.0.16

PokePoke•7/11/24, 11:45 AM

is it latest?

walmis•7/11/24, 11:48 AM

If it's disabled, there's nothing to update

Wwalmis If it's disabled, there's nothing to update

PokePoke•7/11/24, 12:05 PM

Thanks

PokePoke•7/11/24, 12:06 PM

PokePoke•7/11/24, 12:07 PM

testing now

PokePoke•7/11/24, 12:07 PM

so nice

TTouch_Of_Legend Yep I have some pics that show but you must be careful with the orientation of t...

PokePoke•7/11/24, 12:37 PM

Thanks a lot, I have done it.

PPokePoke Click to see attachment

Fr4Ged•7/11/24, 1:28 PM

why do you have a mat with rocks on it in your room?

H145Rotor-Sims•7/11/24, 2:20 PM

My preorder is just about ready. Quick question. I'm running Brunner Anti Torque pedals. Is there any issue running the Brunner FFB & the VPForce Software simultaneously?

FFr4Ged why do you have a mat with rocks on it in your room? 😄

PokePoke•7/11/24, 2:22 PM

because of motion simualtor,

PokePoke•7/11/24, 2:22 PM

Without it, the machine will press down on the floor and leave marks.

FFr4Ged why do you have a mat with rocks on it in your room? 😄

PokePoke•7/11/24, 5:15 PM

ah sorry, I misunderstood. the rocks haha. for feet massage

HHiob should be hex. Take a small L-hex and screw it in by hand. With the large grip y...

LeLv30_Superbus•7/11/24, 5:57 PM

Is there 3 screws or just the 2 which are visible without removing the belt? See, the problem not only returned but it spread to X-axis

Too much F-4E lately

I guess?
2 mm is the smallest hex I found, but it's not an L-shape (I think it came with Stecs) and I can't get it inserted properly with the belt on.

LLeLv30_Superbus Is there 3 screws or just the 2 which are visible without removing the belt? See...

Hiob•7/11/24, 6:33 PM

Take the belt off then…

There are multiple holes, but usually you only need one screw, because there is only one flat face on the shaft.

Bambusa•7/11/24, 6:35 PM

What add ons do I need for vkb stick?

HHiob Take the belt off then…😅 There are multiple holes, but usually you only need on...

Hiob•7/11/24, 6:43 PM

…just to be safe - the screw goes against the flat face of course!

Xaero Zero•7/11/24, 6:50 PM

NOTE: do not order those fancy black pulleys from ali, the quality is pretty bad compared to Zn

Sup3rToc0!•7/11/24, 8:03 PM

Can I purchase the stoppers separately? I already have the base but now in hindsight I realize I should’ve purchased the stoppers with the base

mark turner•7/11/24, 8:37 PM

Hi, I have a query regarding my newest Rhino ( I have 2) - its only 1 few months old and gets lightly used as a Helo cyclic base only. I have noticed a few times now, it suddenly turns the fans on full blast, when I have not been been using it....like just now, which prompted me. The PC has been sat idle, downloading the Afghanistan map and the update for 3 hours or so and yet suddenly, the fans come on for about 2 minutes full blast...and I have not even used it today! Is this right?

Mmark turner Hi, I have a query regarding my newest Rhino ( I have 2) - its only 1 few months...

Hiob•7/12/24, 5:09 AM

I would pull up the VP configurator and have a look at the temperatures. The fan should only start if the temp goes above 50 C.
When you have your Rhino powered and for some reason it‘s vibrating (can happen when the gains and low pass filters are mismatched) I could imagine that it will slowly warm up….. but thats very theoretical and probably unlikely

walmis•7/12/24, 5:42 AM

Yeah, I'd check the telemetry output, what are the motor currents at idle? Maybe it's configured to balance a heavy stick/extension, it will def heat up over time.

SSup3rToc0!Can I purchase the stoppers separately? I already have the base but now in hinds...

walmis•7/12/24, 5:43 AM

Yeah, ofcourse - the usual way via order.vpforce.eu

rockerverb08•7/12/24, 8:01 PM

does anyone else get in-game joystick jittering in DCS when using Periodic Effects? I have to turn the effects down to nearly zero otherwise the in game joystick and subsequent control surfaces (ailerons and elevator) continuously jitter. For reference, I'm using a VKB grib with a small VKB extension (dont think that it matters in this case but I could be dead wrong) and flying the Spitfire.

Stains•7/12/24, 9:40 PM

Mine jitters when I set friction too high. And if I set it way too high, it spazzes out.

SStains Mine jitters when I set friction too high. And if I set it way too high, it spaz...

rockerverb08•7/12/24, 10:17 PM

Thanks for the info. I’ll try adjusting the friction to see what it does

Rrockerverb08 does anyone else get in-game joystick jittering in DCS when using Periodic Effec...

walmis•7/13/24, 4:12 AM

Could it be telemFFB engine rumble ?

Limitless VR & Simrigs•7/13/24, 6:23 AM

Just checking if the Virpil grips on the Rhino will still detect in the VPC config software? both my Warbird and Alpha grips do not show up, button press detect in the Rhino software though.

LLimitless VR & Simrigs Just checking if the Virpil grips on the Rhino will still detect in the VPC conf...

walmis•7/13/24, 6:48 AM

No, VPC config software will not work, since the Grips are connected via Rhino firmware

Bob Bushman•7/13/24, 7:13 AM

Big difference between the virpil software and the virpil joystick tester.

The latter works for any joystick even xbx gamepads.
As its just looking for any HID input and display graphs for axes and numbered buttons.

Bob Bushman•7/13/24, 7:15 AM

The former is your actual virpil software which purpose is to flash firmware updstes, calibrate and tweak logical buttons, modifiers etc.

Wwalmis No, VPC config software will not work, since the Grips are connected via Rhino f...

Limitless VR & Simrigs•7/13/24, 7:24 AM

Ok good to know, thanks guys

Limitless VR & Simrigs•7/13/24, 9:51 AM

Ok I have another strange one, however its no doubt something I am missing. My twist axis in both my Virpil sticks seems not to register, either in the VPforce software or Windows game controllers. Any ideas onthis one team?

LLimitless VR & Simrigs Ok I have another strange one, however its no doubt something I am missing. My t...

walmis•7/13/24, 10:42 AM

You need to select the grip profile (VPC Alpha?) and calibrate the twist axis in the VP configurator.

the way the stick 'jumps' onscreen points to some other axis binding in msfs conflicting. what othe

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