PThanks
PPPtesting now
Pso nice 
PThanks a lot, I have done it.
Fwhy do you have a mat with rocks on it in your room? 
HMy preorder is just about ready. Quick question. I'm running Brunner Anti Torque pedals. Is there any issue running the Brunner FFB & the VPForce Software simultaneously?
Pbecause of motion simualtor,
PWithout it, the machine will press down on the floor and leave marks.
Pah sorry, I misunderstood. the rocks haha. for feet massage
LIs there 3 screws or just the 2 which are visible without removing the belt? See, the problem not only returned but it spread to X-axis 
Too much F-4E lately 
I guess?
2 mm is the smallest hex I found, but it's not an L-shape (I think it came with Stecs) and I can't get it inserted properly with the belt on.
Too much F-4E lately I guess?2 mm is the smallest hex I found, but it's not an L-shape (I think it came with Stecs) and I can't get it inserted properly with the belt on.
HTake the belt off then…
There are multiple holes, but usually you only need one screw, because there is only one flat face on the shaft.
There are multiple holes, but usually you only need one screw, because there is only one flat face on the shaft.
BWhat add ons do I need for vkb stick?
H…just to be safe - the screw goes against the flat face of course!
XNOTE: do not order those fancy black pulleys from ali, the quality is pretty bad compared to Zn
SCan I purchase the stoppers separately? I already have the base but now in hindsight I realize I should’ve purchased the stoppers with the base
MHi, I have a query regarding my newest Rhino ( I have 2) - its only 1 few months old and gets lightly used as a Helo cyclic base only. I have noticed a few times now, it suddenly turns the fans on full blast, when I have not been been using it....like just now, which prompted me. The PC has been sat idle, downloading the Afghanistan map and the update for 3 hours or so and yet suddenly, the fans come on for about 2 minutes full blast...and I have not even used it today! Is this right?
HI would pull up the VP configurator and have a look at the temperatures. The fan should only start if the temp goes above 50 C.
When you have your Rhino powered and for some reason it‘s vibrating (can happen when the gains and low pass filters are mismatched) I could imagine that it will slowly warm up….. but thats very theoretical and probably unlikely
When you have your Rhino powered and for some reason it‘s vibrating (can happen when the gains and low pass filters are mismatched) I could imagine that it will slowly warm up….. but thats very theoretical and probably unlikely
WYeah, I'd check the telemetry output, what are the motor currents at idle? Maybe it's configured to balance a heavy stick/extension, it will def heat up over time.
WYeah, ofcourse - the usual way via order.vpforce.eu
Rdoes anyone else get in-game joystick jittering in DCS when using Periodic Effects? I have to turn the effects down to nearly zero otherwise the in game joystick and subsequent control surfaces (ailerons and elevator) continuously jitter. For reference, I'm using a VKB grib with a small VKB extension (dont think that it matters in this case but I could be dead wrong) and flying the Spitfire.
SMine jitters when I set friction too high. And if I set it way too high, it spazzes out.
RThanks for the info. I’ll try adjusting the friction to see what it does
WCould it be telemFFB engine rumble ?
LJust checking if the Virpil grips on the Rhino will still detect in the VPC config software? both my Warbird and Alpha grips do not show up, button press detect in the Rhino software though.
WNo, VPC config software will not work, since the Grips are connected via Rhino firmware
BBig difference between the virpil software and the virpil joystick tester.
The latter works for any joystick even xbx gamepads.
As its just looking for any HID input and display graphs for axes and numbered buttons.
The latter works for any joystick even xbx gamepads.
As its just looking for any HID input and display graphs for axes and numbered buttons.
BThe former is your actual virpil software which purpose is to flash firmware updstes, calibrate and tweak logical buttons, modifiers etc.
LOk good to know, thanks guys
LOk I have another strange one, however its no doubt something I am missing. My twist axis in both my Virpil sticks seems not to register, either in the VPforce software or Windows game controllers. Any ideas onthis one team?
WYou need to select the grip profile (VPC Alpha?) and calibrate the twist axis in the VP configurator.
BJust received my notice to place an order. TBH I thought I had another 6 months to ramp up my research on the Rhino, and that is, in part, prompting my question. I am not chatgpt so i have not read and analyzed every post on this discord, so apologies in advance if this can be pieced together with a deeper read (happy to read a couple linked posts if provided in lieu of a response), but I at least know so far that the key differentiator of this product is the software/firmware, so wanted to pose this question here as it has everything to do with ongoing support: In light of the new entrants to the FFB market, what are your plans @walmis and @Number481 regarding providing ongoing support for the rhino and telemffb? if your support stopped today how long could we reasonably expect to be able to use the rhino before a msfs/dcs update destroyed compatability? Are we at a stage where updates/fixes are more QoL than mission critical? Thanks!
WHi, we're not going anywhere - the current firmware is quite mature with more QoL updates are cooking, telemFFB is open source - which in any case community can always make some quick fixes if necessary.
BSounds great, thanks for the quick response!
LThanks mate, that was exactly what I was missing Yea I have the Alpha and also Warbird, both working perfectly now.
Yea I have the Alpha and also Warbird, both working perfectly now.LI thought I would chime in also. Mate brilliant questions you asked and actually very relevant. I can perhaps help you get up to speed from just a customers perspective. I am not in anyway affiliated with Walmis or that amazing Rhino. I was however on the waiting list for about 8-9 months and only just received my Rhino about a month ago, I had been following along at every stage of the updates and progression for about 12 month. Researched the heck out of everything I could find on the internet over that period while I waiting. I have nothing but absolute confidence in what they are doing, how far they have come and the stability of the product and the support. My biggest concern honestly now that I have my Rhino, is getting enough time in the rig hahaha.
BGreat stuff! Just watched your new vid this morning and was very helpful 
IYo. I have had the stick for quite some time now, but there are still some concepts i struggle to understand. Like all the enabled effects. Will dcs override (disable) effects that are not applicable for a certain module? Furtheremore. How does the gain play into all off this. I assume this controls the overall force applied to all effects? And from observing discussions here it seems that bigger motor / power is better? In my experience, full gain in combination with full centering spring is pretty much unusable (locks up the stick). I guess I am woundering how people really use the stick? Do they change (template) config when swapping modules etc?
AThe effects you see in the configurator are only defaults if the game doesn’t apply any effects — in other words, they will be overwritten by the game and/or telemffb. UNLESS you have Sticky checked on the effect, then it will ignore the game/telem’s effect.
As for getting settings right — this is mostly a personal thing. You should tune it how you want. I personally run with all the effects at 100% in the configurator (think of this as like a max limiter for the effect, it’s up to the game or telemffb for how strong it is) except for periodic effects at 50% and friction at like 7% (because friction can have weird vibration effects if overdone). Then I use TelemFFB to tune effects for individual aircraft, and the gain knob to turn down the spring effect if I find it too strong for a particular plane
As for getting settings right — this is mostly a personal thing. You should tune it how you want. I personally run with all the effects at 100% in the configurator (think of this as like a max limiter for the effect, it’s up to the game or telemffb for how strong it is) except for periodic effects at 50% and friction at like 7% (because friction can have weird vibration effects if overdone). Then I use TelemFFB to tune effects for individual aircraft, and the gain knob to turn down the spring effect if I find it too strong for a particular plane
A(Sorry for spelling/grammar, on phone atm)
SI'm struggling with getting the Rhino to work in XP12. It seems very inconsistent on when it actually works. I may have to restart TelemFFB for it to properly recognize.
SWhen it does work, I don't have full pitch authority and none of the force feedback seems to be coming through
SAlso, sometime when I load in a plane the stick doesn't correlate with the Rhino. I can see the movement in Bindings, but not in the aircraft.
HThink of the different gains as factors. Master gain x settings gain x effect gain. Where effect gain. an be overridden by the application. So basically with master and settings gain you determine the maximum strength of any given effect. (If one of those e.g. is set to 80%, the overall force can‘t be over 80%.) From my experience the threefold of friction, inertia and damping only works well with lower settings (<20).
IThanks for the reponse! Much appreciated!
RWould this be for sims that don't have FFB built in like DCS? I'm a DCS-only user, so would I set all the gain levels to max and let DCS decide how much to send through the stick? I sorta wish we had a suggested settings page for the sims, but I understand that could get quite busy
Athe challenge with that is that the suggested settings would depend on your grip/extension combination as well as personal preference
Rtotally get that
AWith DCS, my personal recommendation would be similar to what I outlined above — have most of the settings be uncapped, a bit like the attached screenshot.
Then use a combination of your hardware gain knob and the TelemFFB app to customize for an aircraft until it feels right. If it’s too strong, turn things down, if you don’t like certain effects, turn them off. The nice thing with TelemFFB is that your customizations are aircraft specific, so once set, it will just detect the aircraft and bring up your saved settings.
As was said earlier, settings can be highly contingent in what sort of extension you have, the weight of your grip, and also personal preference, do you like a stiff or looser spring force, etc
Then use a combination of your hardware gain knob and the TelemFFB app to customize for an aircraft until it feels right. If it’s too strong, turn things down, if you don’t like certain effects, turn them off. The nice thing with TelemFFB is that your customizations are aircraft specific, so once set, it will just detect the aircraft and bring up your saved settings.
As was said earlier, settings can be highly contingent in what sort of extension you have, the weight of your grip, and also personal preference, do you like a stiff or looser spring force, etc
