https://youtu.be/C000yN71IWA?si=xJjpC7H7gShO2XkQ

Further testing with the VPforce Rhino, force feedback joystick base. Taking off from @TrentonPalmer house in the Kitfox Stage 2 - MSFS2020 and down to Reno airport, testing the software, a deeper dive into the settings plus, a look at the stick choices and what I feel works best.

VPforce: https://vpforcecontrols.com/
VPforce Rhino manual: htt...

RReed https://youtu.be/C000yN71IWA?si=xJjpC7H7gShO2XkQ

nubbins•7/10/24, 11:39 PM

very nice setup, but is this where the concern about vkb clamp "flexing" comes from? sounds like something is wrong with that particular z-extension, which is a custom design (from the reddit dude who wrapped his MCG Pro in bike tape?), should probably try another design perhaps TM-Rev.C instead of Rev.B-Rev.B or Rev.C-Rev.C

nubbins•7/10/24, 11:40 PM

using neok's z-extension design printed out of just normal PLA + walmis' rev.C adapter, there is no problem with flex or play

CapnFlint•7/11/24, 4:33 AM

Been a while since I checked - do we have an update on recommeded Rhino and DCS F4 settings from the Heatblur dev who got a Rhino?

VVakarian Nah, I got ones from Walmis. Don't have printer unfortunately 😦

walmis•7/11/24, 5:24 AM

Hey, put in an order request, I'll send you a couple of replacement collars

Stryker990•7/11/24, 8:17 AM

Not sure if that was ever asked but if u get the FFB kit for the MFG Crosswind will you be able to add a center detent in the software so you can feel when your rudder is centered?

SStryker990 Not sure if that was ever asked but if u get the FFB kit for the MFG Crosswind w...

walmis•7/11/24, 8:43 AM

It's possible with the current firmware

Stryker990•7/11/24, 8:45 AM

Hm you just got closer to be ~400€ richer :MurmKek:

Stryker990•7/11/24, 8:49 AM

Whats the current preorder time for the crosswind kit or is there none? (Seems quicker to make than a complete rhino)

ddrake1984•7/11/24, 8:49 AM

None at the moment

Stryker990•7/11/24, 9:30 AM

What modifications would i need to do to my crosswind to mount the ffb kit?

Wwalmis Hey, put in an order request, I'll send you a couple of replacement collars 🙂

Vakarian•7/11/24, 10:03 AM

Hey, thanks for the reply

I've made a request

VPforceBot•7/11/24, 10:24 AM

:package:

RHINO #0622 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•7/11/24, 10:25 AM

:package:

RHINO #0621 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•7/11/24, 10:25 AM

:package:

RHINO #0623 Has Shipped!

SStryker990 What modifications would i need to do to my crosswind to mount the ffb kit?

walmis•7/11/24, 1:17 PM

Hiob's mod doesn't require any modifications: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1255151401542357055
My pending design would require 4 additional holes

Wwalmis Hiob's mod doesn't require any modifications: https://discord.com/channels/96523...

Stryker990•7/11/24, 1:26 PM

Hiobs looks like a DIY kit? And "pending" so ur not shipping yet?

Ggtwgiorelli Anyone here has the spitfire on dcs? The pitch axis center position is off, anyo...

sydost•7/11/24, 2:06 PM

Can you explain a little more how it feels off to you?

Ssydost Can you explain a little more how it feels off to you?

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:35 PM

On the mustang it works fine. But the y axis (pitch) on the spitfire starts at 10% pull, so the plane immediately starts going nose up. And the range on the y axis , if i push the stick it goes 80% from center and if i pull the stick it goes 100% of the range. So if I could change the neutral position on the lua files I think it would solve it. Other people reported pitching problems with the spitfire before, and it was a bug on the module because it went away by it self. Was not double mapping or anything like that.

sydost•7/11/24, 2:36 PM

Ok, and in what situation it started with 10% pull? Airstart?

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:37 PM

Any circumstance. Dark on the ground, airstsrt

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:37 PM

All

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:40 PM

I managed to center the y axis messing with the "invert y axis" option and then going to the mapping of the pitch "tune center" and inverting again. That way it centers , but its too sensible, but if I add any curve or saturation to make it feel better it goes off center again

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:42 PM

I think the main issue here is the unbalanced pitch axis, it goes 90% pushing the stick but goes 100% when I pull the stick. (Full range of values from center) if I could change that somewhere in the lua files for the spitfire module

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 2:42 PM

But I didn't find anything on the default lua in the module to change the values of the pitch axis

Ggtwgiorelli I managed to center the y axis messing with the "invert y axis" option and then...

SamNFTY•7/11/24, 2:52 PM

Are you adding curves in DCS? I think that might be your problem. You should be running your axis without any adjustment in DCS

SSamNFTY Are you adding curves in DCS? I think that might be your problem. You should be ...

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 3:15 PM

The problem only happens with the spitfire module, and other people had the same issue.

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 3:15 PM

In the beginning it had the problem even without any curves.

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 3:16 PM

But I figured how to overcome that by inverting the axis. But the module still has the unbalanced pitch axis. I'm trying to find a way to change the neutral position on the lua files for this module.

SamNFTY•7/11/24, 3:17 PM

Ok. I'll give it a try when I'm back home

SamNFTY•7/11/24, 3:17 PM

Only flown the Mustang

CapnFlint•7/11/24, 4:07 PM

Is there a FFB kit or adapter anyone has published for the VKB Pedals? I thought I saw one a while back but can't find it now

AndyHill•7/11/24, 5:18 PM

I may have to start calling my MFGs pendals from now on

SSamNFTY Ok. I'll give it a try when I'm back home

gtwgiorelli•7/11/24, 5:55 PM

Thanks

142nd_Bama•7/11/24, 6:17 PM

Does anyone know the lead time for a DIY kit to the states?

1142nd_Bama Does anyone know the lead time for a DIY kit to the states?

smitty•7/11/24, 6:49 PM

about 6 days

Ssmitty about 6 days

142nd_Bama•7/11/24, 6:51 PM

oh awesome, thanks

westereq•7/11/24, 7:08 PM

im reading throught the assembly manual from github right now, and in the beginning it mentions 20V DC power supply, when in the end it mentions a 24V one, which one is a better choice? I already have a 19.5V laptop power supply, would that work fine?

mechsicko•7/11/24, 7:26 PM

24 is the better option these days.... you get more power on less amps which is a good thing. The 20vdc recommendation is a vestigial remnant from the beginning of the project when the caps or other components in the drives had lower ratings than they do these days

Mmechsicko 24 is the better option these days.... you get more power on less amps which is ...

westereq•7/11/24, 8:48 PM

okay, i will run it off the laptop one until a 24V one arrives then. Thank you!

Oneill•7/11/24, 10:09 PM

Well I got someone to sort out the sim, and that VP Rhino is something special.
A bit more fiddling and I’ll have it just like my ikarus I’m learning in.
No more no feel touch and go’s, I’ve got a month to get my landings sorted before my lessons start again.
Happy days

ddrake1984•7/11/24, 10:39 PM

hey guys, just trying to understand something