the challenge with that is that the suggested settings would depend on your grip/extension combinati
the challenge with that is that the suggested settings would depend on your grip/extension combination as well as personal preference
Rtotally get that
AWith DCS, my personal recommendation would be similar to what I outlined above — have most of the settings be uncapped, a bit like the attached screenshot.
Then use a combination of your hardware gain knob and the TelemFFB app to customize for an aircraft until it feels right. If it’s too strong, turn things down, if you don’t like certain effects, turn them off. The nice thing with TelemFFB is that your customizations are aircraft specific, so once set, it will just detect the aircraft and bring up your saved settings.
As was said earlier, settings can be highly contingent in what sort of extension you have, the weight of your grip, and also personal preference, do you like a stiff or looser spring force, etc
Then use a combination of your hardware gain knob and the TelemFFB app to customize for an aircraft until it feels right. If it’s too strong, turn things down, if you don’t like certain effects, turn them off. The nice thing with TelemFFB is that your customizations are aircraft specific, so once set, it will just detect the aircraft and bring up your saved settings.
As was said earlier, settings can be highly contingent in what sort of extension you have, the weight of your grip, and also personal preference, do you like a stiff or looser spring force, etc
HI think, DCS (natively) doesn’t apply things like friction and inertia. Only spring and very limited periodic effects. If TelemFFB deals with friction and inertia? I doubt it. I believe those are more to make the stick feel to your taste. But I could be mistaken.
Ayeah -- i also am not sure if it applies stuff like that. to add though -- TelemFFB now allows you to add those specific settings on an aircraft per aircraft basis, so almost never a need to use the configurator to add effects unless you are playing a game that doesn't have any FFB or TelemFFB support
II just tested the apache with max gain, hoping that the module takes over and disables the spring force (enabled but not sticky). I am assuming that the apache works like other helicopters and that it has minimal «spring force.» Does not seem to be the case in DCS. With max gain, I can barely move the apache stick. Is this simply something DCS does not support? Can this be «fixed» in telemffb?
Pgames keep freezing when pedals connected. it is normally work in teleffb
Pit works joystick device test brakes are working as a TPR, Yaw Axis is working as a rhino pedals 2054.
Pbut when it is connected, game freezes. I unbinded all previous binding, but still mouse is not responding.
Psame result even though I turned off teleffb. so it is hardware issue
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PI connected motor data bottom like this picture
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Pnot like this, does it matters?
LOh awesome mate, glad you have seen that video and it was helpful, my intention is to really share how amazing the Rhino and its software is. The software is honestly what really makes this unit shine. As you would have seen, I was able to dial up the feedback past what is actually realistic, I want to feel road vibration, I want to feel the stick forces on landing. You have so many options to play with so you can tune the feeling of the stick to exactly how you want it to feel, realistic or beyond realistic as in my case hahaha. I had the stick pull out of my hand on one of my bush landings with the landing feedback cranked to 100%, sure, that's not realistic for a real pilot used to flying bush planes but for an average bloke like me, I am having a heck of a time in my rig. That's the beauty of the software, tune it how you want.
Lvonbioms
Anot sure the realism factor as i've never flown an actual apache, however, i assume it's supposed to be stiff-ish unless you're holding the force trim button?
Abut yeah, you can turn down the gain with the dial if needed
1Can you post a link?
JWell look who dropped in… 
1I’m about to do a diy kit I believe, meant to message you in the 142nd earlier
JHighly recommend it. Support here is second to none.
1That’s what pretty much sealed it for me, this is a really involved company/community
1Thanks
Chey, what settings can I adjust to prevent my axis from going limp? and what values should these be? mainly seems to be from telem FFB in conjuction with higher spring gains.
WCan you show us your current configurator settings?
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WTry reducing the damper force LPF values until you get more stability
TIf you need ANY help at all we’re all here for ya.
It’s the most amazing thing you’ll ever see…
A Rhino.. Flying!
It’s the most amazing thing you’ll ever see…
A Rhino.. Flying!
TBut no seriously if you search back to my post in the DIY section I took A LOT of pics from alternate angles and post A LOT of tips from the build including some wire photos and some photos that show the “proper orientation” or the gimbal slot and the motors.
TExample tip (see the photo).
This is how you wire the Emergency Stop switch.
Power (+) comes from the plug and goes to the C side of the Stop Switch.
Power (+) goes from the NC side of the Stop Switch to the main board.
Ground (-) goes directly from the plug to the main board.
Some small tips wiring like this (that aren’t in the manual) can be best explained in photos or be reading through other people’s builds and collecting a few choice reference photos.
This is how you wire the Emergency Stop switch.
Power (+) comes from the plug and goes to the C side of the Stop Switch.
Power (+) goes from the NC side of the Stop Switch to the main board.
Ground (-) goes directly from the plug to the main board.
Some small tips wiring like this (that aren’t in the manual) can be best explained in photos or be reading through other people’s builds and collecting a few choice reference photos.
TSo my advice is to start collecting a few pics from working units
And to read through some folks builds and see if they had a problem.. How was it resolved?
I myself got stuck trying to be “too precise” at the centering part of the calibration set up..
Not realizing this ain’t no regular stick.
Not only can you can that later you can change it so it has more roll than pitch (like most normal airframes are in real life)
You can set it so you just sort of tune the spring and centering and the basic effects on the fly..
So yeah finding about the issues and fixes others had will also help with your own build.
Otherwise like I said never hesitate to post if you’ve got a problem or an issue.
It’s like you said I checked out all the FFB before I jumped in and I watched this community for months, and I’m part of the other communities as well and I saw for myself which software and which community was best for me.
No dig on the others because I’m all for more options and better cost but for me… I fly a Rhino.
And to read through some folks builds and see if they had a problem.. How was it resolved?
I myself got stuck trying to be “too precise” at the centering part of the calibration set up..
Not realizing this ain’t no regular stick.
Not only can you can that later you can change it so it has more roll than pitch (like most normal airframes are in real life)
You can set it so you just sort of tune the spring and centering and the basic effects on the fly..
So yeah finding about the issues and fixes others had will also help with your own build.
Otherwise like I said never hesitate to post if you’ve got a problem or an issue.
It’s like you said I checked out all the FFB before I jumped in and I watched this community for months, and I’m part of the other communities as well and I saw for myself which software and which community was best for me.
No dig on the others because I’m all for more options and better cost but for me… I fly a Rhino.
BMakes a huge difference to have a builder and community that shares your priorities over say Brünner that spent like 6 years before they even added official support for dcs.
RGot a werid request. Currently no matter what I do as far as settings the stick is very bouncy. For example, lets say i am flying a helo and trip the stick to forward right position, I then hit trim reset and the new center is different. If i let the stick go it goes to center and then bounces around until it settles on the center and stabilizes. Another example, is you are trimming and set your new center, then let go of grip. The stick still has some bounciness or springiness until it settles. what do i set to take out the bounciness so it acts like a real cyclic using hydraulics, etc. I understand some of the limitations due to being belt driven, but there has got to be a way. My current settings are spring 80, damper 40, inertia 2.5, friction 8, adaptive centering enabled, static force, and balance spring.
RAnother thought is the adaptive centering is only 12% of max spring setting, can you give the user the option to increase this, especially for those flying helos when trimming is a constant thing so the centering hasa stronger force and is quicker to retain the new center. I'd be happy to beta test. @Number481
WCan you screenshot your settings/effects tabs?
RIve got a recent set posted on the discord just gotta find it.
R
REasiest way to describe is using the kiowa hot or cold start and have the scas and trim on. from starting position. take cyclic and move all the way to right or left and just let go. It snaps nack to center and bounces around until its stabilized. Easiset way to compare is the spring door stoppers youd flick as a kid.
RI dont see it as an error or friction is to high, as I have had the issue int he past and we adjust my hz and it went away.
RCurrent settings except i added static force back and changed limiter to 8x10 from 11.
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R@walmis
AYou don’t need hardware trim with the Kiowa, unclear if maybe that’s fighting with the in game one?. One thing in general I would suggest is also disabling inertia globally like this
AIn fact, as a general debug thing, might be worth disabling all effects, and see if that fixes it.
AAlso for Kiowa special settings, what do you have?
RDo you have spring, inertia, friction, and damper enabled on the effects tab?
Ai personally dont, i like to keep the stick a dead stick, so i can tell if a sim has taken control of it or not
A(i don't really play any games that don't have FFB support)
Aand i want to add, say damper or something to a plane (to make it feel less springy) then i use TelemFFB overrides to do that
