You don’t need hardware trim with the Kiowa, unclear if maybe that’s fighting with the in game one?.

You don’t need hardware trim with the Kiowa, unclear if maybe that’s fighting with the in game one?. One thing in general I would suggest is also disabling inertia globally like this

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 5:29 PM

In fact, as a general debug thing, might be worth disabling all effects, and see if that fixes it.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 5:29 PM

Also for Kiowa special settings, what do you have?

Aamadeus With DCS, my personal recommendation would be similar to what I outlined above —...

rockerverb08•7/14/24, 7:19 PM

Do you have spring, inertia, friction, and damper enabled on the effects tab?

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:22 PM

i personally dont, i like to keep the stick a dead stick, so i can tell if a sim has taken control of it or not

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:22 PM

(i don't really play any games that don't have FFB support)

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:23 PM

and i want to add, say damper or something to a plane (to make it feel less springy) then i use TelemFFB overrides to do that

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:23 PM

basically what my effects tab looks like

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:24 PM

(i also don't have an extension, so opted not to use a balance spring either)

Aamadeus You don’t need hardware trim with the Kiowa, unclear if maybe that’s fighting wi...

Reed•7/14/24, 7:30 PM

I dont use hardware trim in 58, thats an older pic but my current settings, minus the harware trim and static force.

Aamadeus In fact, as a general debug thing, might be worth disabling all effects, and see...

Reed•7/14/24, 7:31 PM

I have done that and it doesnt change boinging.

Rrockerverb08 Do you have spring, inertia, friction, and damper enabled on the effects tab?

Reed•7/14/24, 7:32 PM

I have everything enabled, but not stickied so DCS can do what it wants. these are my defaults for 60 mod. I never sticky anything.

Aamadeus i personally dont, i like to keep the stick a dead stick, so i can tell if a sim...

Reed•7/14/24, 7:34 PM

The 60 mod doesn't have native support and the OH6 mod isnt that great. Only fly the 58 with native support, hence why I must use settings.

Reed•7/14/24, 7:35 PM

I use teleffb for other setting changes, but let the vpforce manage my one profile and just turn hardware force trim on and off.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:36 PM

so a settings will still apply if the game doesn't set it, and i'm not sure if DCS will apply things like inertia or damping, so just to be sure it's not an effect like thing would be good to do a run with everything turned off. All that said -- have you double checked axis assignments, to make sure you don't have another axis also bound that's fighting with your rhino?

Reed•7/14/24, 7:37 PM

Yup, no double binds confirmed. I have tested with nothing in effects tab checked and still get the boing.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:37 PM

also -- fwiw -- i wouldn't apply inertia and damper via the configurator, instead i would use telemffb to do it: because then it can detect which aircraft you are flying and apply appropriately (i think the hardware trim will still be necessary though)

Reed•7/14/24, 7:37 PM

Ill try it.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:38 PM

Reed•7/14/24, 7:38 PM

@amadeus what does your settings tab look like?

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:39 PM

make sure you have something like those settings for the OH-58D

Reed•7/14/24, 7:39 PM

Yup I use FFB Force 50

Reed•7/14/24, 7:40 PM

Since my settings tab has 100 and effects tab is at 75 for default profile.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:40 PM

for reference, here are all of my settings in the configurator and telem:

rockerverb08•7/14/24, 7:41 PM

@amadeus any recommendations for warbird settings?

Reed•7/14/24, 7:42 PM

Do me a favor. Get in the 58. Hot or cold doesnt matter. When at fly and ready for take off. dont use the trim release and pull the cyclic as far right or left as you can and let go. tell me how your stick behaves. Or video it. If you are willing and have time. Thank you.

Reed•7/14/24, 7:42 PM

Wanna see what others are experiencing.

Rrockerverb08 @amadeus any recommendations for warbird settings?

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:42 PM

it's been a minute since i've flown any warbirds, my configurator settings would be the same here, let me see if i've got anything going with the telemffb settings

RReed Do me a favor. Get in the 58. Hot or cold doesnt matter. When at fly and ready f...

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:43 PM

like in game? or like a video of the physical stick

Reed•7/14/24, 7:43 PM

Both, but ill take either.

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:45 PM

Reed•7/14/24, 7:45 PM

I am looking to see if you get the boing thing or its just me. This maneuver wouldnt be done in real life or in game for any reason so most people i have asked have never tried it to see if they get the same thing im experiencing. Also, adaptive recentering, do you think it would be helpful to have a slider to adjust what percent of spring strength it uses when active?

Aamadeus Click to see attachment

Reed•7/14/24, 7:47 PM

Mine does not do that at all, its goes past the center and them bounces back and forth until it centers. It is not as drastric as it sounds but can make using trim annoying.

Reed•7/14/24, 7:47 PM

Thank you very much for posting the vid. super helpful

Reed•7/14/24, 7:48 PM

So the only thing you have other than default is 25% damper in teleffb?

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:48 PM

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:49 PM

i also have these settings too, which can be a bit more sneaky

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:49 PM

but yeah, i think for the most part with telemffb -- i've turned down a bunch of effects, and added some stronger damping -- mostly because when i hold the force trim release, i like to make the stick have some resistance when i move it around

Rrockerverb08 @amadeus any recommendations for warbird settings?

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:55 PM

ok -- so been a while since i've flown warbirds in DCS, and in that time, telem had a big update and i think i yeeted all my previous settings around that time, so i've not really set anything up. I think the main thing i do, because i have all my configurator settings at mostly max level (to give myself the biggest range for effects), i just start a free flight with telemffb running, then just see how it feels to fly and turn things down or up as necessary

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 7:58 PM

(usually i end up turning things down)

RReed Mine does not do that at all, its goes past the center and them bounces back and...

amadeusOP•7/14/24, 8:01 PM

oh also -- do you have any curves applied in DCS to your rhino?

Check6•7/14/24, 8:17 PM

@walmis can you please help? My winwing adapter will not connect via the adapter. I have the F16xl by winwing. I think it's a problem in the adapter, it won't connect flush to the stick or the rhino. If I connect my thrustmaster stick with no adapter it's fine.

Check6•7/14/24, 8:17 PM

Also if I connect my wiwing directly to the original winwing base it works fine.

Caprice•7/14/24, 9:18 PM

hi this is not nessasarily related to the rhino directly, I have been dealing with a "Kernal-Power" issue for some time now, that black screens my computer and foces restart, anyone deal with this here by any chance?

Aamadeus oh also -- do you have any curves applied in DCS to your rhino?

Reed•7/15/24, 3:15 AM

no curves in dcs.

CCheck6 @walmis can you please help? My winwing adapter will not connect via the adapter...

walmis•7/15/24, 6:01 AM

Hi, does the button 32 light up when you plug in the WW adapter without the grip?
Can you check if the pins are not bent or damaged on the adapter?

PokePoke•7/15/24, 8:33 AM

My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to stall and weapon vibration, but engine vibration works, spring and damper works too. I don’t know whether it is hardware issue or software issue,

Y axis deactivated, set to child instance as a pedals (2054), master gain 60, periodic effects 100, constant 100, spring 100, others 0 on setting page, spring 90, adaptive recentering activated on effects page.

any idea can help me kindly let me know Thanks a lot

PPokePoke My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to st...

Hiob•7/15/24, 9:04 AM

As mentioned earlier - since some FFB works it is almost safe to say that it isn't a hardware issue. Can you post screenshots of your complete settings in VP configurator and TelemFFB for the Aircraft you wnat to try?

Hiob•7/15/24, 9:05 AM

I would rather set master gain to 100% and reduce the individual effects if necessary. Maybe the gain for the particular effects you are missing is just too low.

PPokePoke My pedal mod works but not properly, it still feels good it doesn’t reacts to st...

Number481•7/15/24, 9:14 AM

which sim?

NNumber481 which sim?

PokePoke•7/15/24, 9:25 AM

TPR Mod Tiger version, il2 sturmovik BOS

You don’t need hardware trim with the Kiowa, unclear if maybe that’s fighting with the in game one?.

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