RI do have a 10cm extension. I had a 15cm extension with the Virpil, but that steam is also much shorter. I find it's too twitchy for me right now on hovers and in transition than I am used to
HThe OH-58 is rather easy to fly (not necessarily unrealistic as I have heard), especially compared to the most popular helicopter module so far - the Apache. Perhaps this is where this judgement stems from.
HAnyway. Once you got a hang on flying he OH-6 - every other Helicopter flies in easy mode.....
1Yes the oh6 and me do not get along!
TI wish there was a lofi cockpit, hifi flight model helicopter option lol
TSimilar to Flaming Cliffs but for a helo
HEventually it clicked. The keyword for me was over-controlling. But I can't imagine flying it with a desktop spring loaded "peasant" joystick. (And it got a lot better with the second iteration of the FM)
HWell, the OH-6 is free and doesnt' need a base module to work (afaik). It is a hard start, for sure, but if you learn to fly that, you can fly everything.
1Agreed, you tame this thing the rest will be much easier!
AFlew the initial version a bit, but yea, it was twitchy.
I think I ended up increasing the sensitivity, and limiting the outer range to match the in-game stick range.
Worked pretty well, actually, and I applied the same thing to the Apache.
Works nicely against over-compensating inputs, actually.
I think I ended up increasing the sensitivity, and limiting the outer range to match the in-game stick range.
Worked pretty well, actually, and I applied the same thing to the Apache.
Works nicely against over-compensating inputs, actually.
1I’ve got the cm3 with a 200mm extension, it’s a fantastic setup but still excited to try the rhino!
HI had a similar setup befor the rhino. It works as well as it comes with non-ffb. But no comparison to the Rhino.
BI had the 1st gen t50 and warbrd gimbals from virpil, but getting the rhino is almost as much a jump in smoothnes and feel as when moving to those from my ch\saitek kit.
BAnd then you add all the FFB features and trim functions etc
1My concern was the rhino would be as smooth..
BIt's smoother.
1Oh wow that’s hard to believe because the cm3 with nyogel is pure butter!
HYeah, but still has springs,
1Not with the cm3
HYou can't properly force trim and force trim release without ffb.
1Well how I run it anyways
Hyeah, but then you have either a limb stick or a lot of friction/stiction.
BI barely touched the rhino, looked at my virpil gimbals and went "yup, done with them"
1This is what I’m looking forward to, with my current setup it’s just a dead stick, stays wherever I leave it but there absolutely no stiction
HThat's kind of impossible....
1How so?
HWell, anyhow, eventually you will see for yourself. I'll bet you'll love it.
BI somewhat regret I can only afford\justify one
HUsually, when you have enough friction to keep it in place, you introduce stiction - can't see how to work around this.
AThat's where proper dampers/grease comes in.
1There was a little at first but with nyogel it erases it!
AHad to fiddle a fair bit with my NXT EVO to resolve that, but it can certainly be done.
Ended up getting PG-44A for that.
Still need to have a look at my CM3, however, once I get around to getting some new tools.
Ended up getting PG-44A for that.
Still need to have a look at my CM3, however, once I get around to getting some new tools.
Bnot saying the virpils are bad, but the rhino is all that, and more, and you have a stick that can go seamlessly from heli to fixed wing, without even having to alt-tab let alone swapping out parts
HYeah, not hitting on the virpil either. As I said - as good as it gets. But no match to proper FFB imho.
LI’ve just come from a Cm3 base this thing pisses over it big time it’s so smooth and the software is made for 8 year olds is so easy to set up.
NThat's just a lack of nyogel on a beefy damper.
DI agree with friends that the CM3 is very, very good, but the Rhino is really a cut above. I'm hesitating to reorder for a 2nd base (for my Vrpil Alpha stick and its role in my A320 
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).LHit a patch of grass in the P51 and it ripped the stick out my hand and im only using 50% 
HEat more protein…..
H(sorry
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)TYeah that’s me I really never push it past 50% and it’s still by far the best stick you could ever get
IRealistic force trim (or force trim off) behavior in a helicopter alone is worth having a FFB stick for. I could never ever go back to a non FFB stick.
II pretty much fly the Kiowa/Huey exclusively with no force trim.
IBut I can hit one button and it turns back on and that is just so... so bad ass.
1Is the overall setup for dcs helos fairly straight forward? I hope to have the rest of the parts in tomorrow and have an operating stick!
SI'm looking forward to that so much. DCS choppers are already the best of any Sim, FFB will just make them better
RI was up and running almost right away. The only thing is that I'm used to curves, and can't use them anymore. May just need to get used to it
RI use an extension and it helped not having curves or a shorter stick
IYep. Not a whole lot different you have to do for helos.