Universal Blue•2y ago

"accessible to normal people" and "FOSS operating system based on linux" are diametrically opposed u

"accessible to normal people" and "FOSS operating system based on linux" are diametrically opposed unfortunately

ZZeglius Not trying to sound etilist, but freedom comes with responsability

asen23•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

there is a point which too much freedom are a thing

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

you have total freedom to run wild out of those defaults

ZZeglius Is to make a distro with good defaults for games

Gorujo-kun•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

yeah but yet have the best out of rhe box experience for handheld and laptops

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

but there is that, we cant completly lock it down

AAshlynn "accessible to normal people" and "FOSS operating system based on linux" are dia...

remi1771•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

Yeah the downfall tbh

Gorujo-kun•7/27/24, 11:07 AM

HMMMMM

Gorujo-kun•7/27/24, 11:08 AM

yeah

ZZeglius but there is that, we cant completly lock it down

remi1771•7/27/24, 11:08 AM

I mean if only you could set up so when booting you could do a '-advance' command for... advanced users

ZZeglius but there is that, we cant completly lock it down

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:08 AM

i dont think its necessary to completely lock things down - just do whatever is possible to prevent a clueless user from fucking up during installation

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:08 AM

post install? god help ye

Aasen23 there is a point which too much freedom are a thing

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:08 AM

Yeah, but imagine now the typical archlinux user wants to migrate to Bazzite per example

ZZeglius Yeah, but imagine now the typical archlinux user wants to migrate to Bazzite per...

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

considering that was me

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

Is impossible to cater to everyone

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

The aim is having good defaults, that's it

ZZeglius Yeah, but imagine now the typical archlinux user wants to migrate to Bazzite per...

remi1771•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

Grub command -advanced ?

Rremi1771 Grub command -advanced ?

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

maybe a grub entry for it, idk

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:09 AM

lots of extra work though

AAshlynn i dont think its necessary to completely lock things down - just do whatever is ...

Zeglius•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

Yeah, like removing the wheel thingy from the install option that is a good start

ZZeglius The aim is having good defaults, that's it

asen23•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

yeah but maybe put those advanced setting a little bit hidden, maybe put a warning if opened

ZZeglius Yeah, like removing the wheel thingy from the install option that is a good star...

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

yeah that's what im getting at

remi1771•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

Arch users love documentation so im sure a text that says "-advance for advanced installation settings" would do the trick

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

no reason to lock things down post-install. The installer should just be somewhat infalliable

AshlynnOP•7/27/24, 11:10 AM

considering that's the part that can cause the most issues right out the gate

ZZeglius Yeah, like removing the wheel thingy from the install option that is a good star...

Gorujo-kun•7/27/24, 11:11 AM

Yeah seriously though just keep all the freedom and accessibility but remove any ability to brick their sudo or other things (or administrative privileges)
Disclaimer: Please use those privileges responsibly newbies :)