And most don't overheat from long term use, so the concept of cooling doesn't enter one's minds
And most don't overheat from long term use, so the concept of cooling doesn't enter one's minds
JAh, well unless you are on Moza then 
Xohh trust me, many does 
JI know Thrustmaster T300RS has/had cooling issues
Xall Moza products, Asetek, some Simagic
JBut that isn't FFB, which I consider to be in such a category
Xsome Fanatec also, most dire situation is with Moza tho
X(indicator that they kept same Quality for flight base) lol
MSo I know my position in the queue and my original preorder date and based on the stats above, I could get mine as early as October or November. How does the process work? Someone gets in touch with me when it's time to actually pay for my order closer to when it will be produced?
WYes. VPForce will email you and inform that your Rhino will soon be ready. The email has the instructions on what to do (fill out their online order form). Once that is done it, you will get an invoice after a few days. Once that is paid, shipment should happen soon after. I reserved a Rhino 1/25/24, got my notice to preorder 7/22, and it shipped 7/29 - a very easy process. Only bump in the road was me having to contact Visa to authorize payment (Since I didn't a history of buying stuff in Lithuania 
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1What are you supposed to run for amps on the main config page? My psu output defaulted to 4 but I have a 9a psu. I would assume it would be safe to put 9 there? What about for the motors? I have the standard size motors
TWalmis has a video on his set up page that shows how to do it and what he recommends but I forget what it is off the top of my head
1His YouTube? Do you have a link? Many thanks!
JIt doesn't give you temps or say anything (unless its in Chinese somewhere and I missed it)
I will admit, I didn't know about the IR testing on metal and that it isnt very effective (lesson learned). And happy to do more testing. I have flown with it for long periods of time and never noticed any issues though from heat.
Obviously more testing can be done and I am happy to try things suggested from others... its a learning process for me as I've never owned a FFB device, so was just trying to do my dilligence with what I did know and things I stumbled upon while doing my research.
I will admit, I didn't know about the IR testing on metal and that it isnt very effective (lesson learned). And happy to do more testing. I have flown with it for long periods of time and never noticed any issues though from heat.
Obviously more testing can be done and I am happy to try things suggested from others... its a learning process for me as I've never owned a FFB device, so was just trying to do my dilligence with what I did know and things I stumbled upon while doing my research.
RIt looks reasonably well built. I just think it will be disappointing on first impressions when people plug it in and start using it. This is it? This is force-feedback?
JI think they have time to figure out the software, i got feedback from them that they identified a lot of the issues i had and brought up. So hopefully things like force trim are just working in the next update (they claim it will be)
JMy hope is, on launch a lot of those issues are just solved, it seems like they should at least be able to figure that out.
I plan to do a followup for any software update i get prior to people getting their units.
I plan to do a followup for any software update i get prior to people getting their units.
BForce trim is pretty much the number one reason for ffb.
AInteresting to see the gimbal has a moving pitch motor design
JYa, first thing i tried and was dumbfounded by it not working
Ado you use curves in dcs?
Aif you have curves in use ffb starts doing all kinds of funky crab
Afor me the best stress tests were shooting down Su-30s in the F-18 mission and the ultimate test was flying normal missions with the Dr.1 in Il-2
JNo, im not a fan of curves
AI think there were options in the special tab for trimming, I assume you have the ffb friendly one selected?
JThis takes 1, maybe 2 passes though, doesn't seem long enough
AI shot down lots of them
BI love curves, but not on my dcs inputs 
JYes, Moza sent me a message saying they identified the issue I pointed out with Direct Input 
Ayeah that's kind of odd, since dcs does force trim all by itself afaik so it should just work
Jtheir spring setting is overriding it
Ayeah that's probably not very easy to fly then
Jso if Direct Input gets a request to set spring force to 0, and you have spring force set to 100 in the moza cockpit software, it just uses the 100
JIn the latest software I have, it goes to like 50%, but not zero
Jand the offset for where you release the trim button, is like 1/4th of what it should be
Ain rhino software you have the option of overriding by setting any settings "sticky", otherwise the game gets the last word exactly because of this
Jso it moves off of center, but only about 1/4 the distance to where you released
Athat made me think about curves, because I think that was precisely the issue people with curves had
JI can double check but I never set them, only thing I use to set them for was the gazelle prior to the FM update
Jand that was cause the inputs were so sensitive
Awell if moza already indentified the problem I suppose it's probably not curves
Jya
Awhen I look at the design I'm thinking that heat dissipation is necessarily going to be pretty low and wondering just how much will it take to start overheating the motors
Aare there any kind of ventilation holes anywhere on the base?
JDouble checked, no curves set
JNothing obvious
Ado I remember correctly that they use a fairly high voltage power supply?
Athat would help with heat generation
AGoing into ffb, that certainly was the main selling point for me
ABut at this point I’d say that the ability to tweak stick effects and forces not just with such great detail and varying effects, but within a couple of seconds of navigating software as opposed to thumb killing work on a physical base or the like is just… mind blowing
