It's about double the latency of DLSS, but honestly, unless you're in a competitive shooter, it isn'

It's about double the latency of DLSS, but honestly, unless you're in a competitive shooter, it isn't particularly noticeable. Euogamer did a decent write up on the latency thing. https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2024-frame-generation-from-a-third-party-app-lossless-scaling-tested

Eurogamer.net

Frame generation for every game? Lossless Scaling vs FSR 3 and DLSS 3

Alex Battaglia investigates Lossless Scaling, an app that has a new frame generation feature that works on a wide range of GPUs and opens up some unique options

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 1:55 PM

Plus it lets you get around frame rate caps in games like Skyrim or Elden ring on higher refresh rate displays.

KKamquat Plus it lets you get around frame rate caps in games like Skyrim or Elden ring o...

fiftydinar•8/18/24, 1:57 PM

how

fiftydinar•8/18/24, 1:58 PM

it just unlocks it?

Ffiftydinar it just unlocks it?

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 1:58 PM

No. But if the game is capped at 60fps, and your display is 120hz, it can generate the other 60 frames.

KKamquat No. But if the game is capped at 60fps, and your display is 120hz, it can genera...

fiftydinar•8/18/24, 1:58 PM

oh, interpolation

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 1:59 PM

It's probably down to personal preference at that point but some people prefer having 120 fps on a 120hz.

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:00 PM

I'm basic and run 60hz displays usually cause I simply don't notice much difference in games so long as I'm at a locked 60 unless i'm doing a direct side-by-side comparison.

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:00 PM

I'm sure some people are audiophile level extra about displays and would consider that blasphemy

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:02 PM

DLSS3 starts to look good at 40+ internal FPS and starts feeling good at 60+ internal. Until recently, there were stil motion artifacts which is why i feel so strongly about LS. Most people are gonna use it to achieve 30 or 60 visual FPS, which it's just not gonna be good for in anything but Turn-based games.

I really don't feel like i'm being radical here in suggesting the tech be used as recommended by the providers lol.

KKamquat It's about double the latency of DLSS, but honestly, unless you're in a competit...

antheas•8/18/24, 2:02 PM

It's essentially a write-up of the video I watched

KKamquat I'm sure some people are audiophile level extra about displays and would conside...

La Forge•8/18/24, 2:02 PM

I think it's a certain sensitivity. I have audiophile gear in the low-mid range because I can tell the difference up to that point and no higher.

When it comes to displays, I'm more sensitive to the differences.

When it comes to food texture, I'm less sensitive

KKøleskab DLSS3 starts to look good at 40+ internal FPS and starts feeling good at 60+ int...

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:03 PM

With LS's LSFG x2 on my Go, the only time I've encountered artifacts is on stairs in games where the camera actually follows the steps. x3 and x4 are a no-go, however. I hear they work okay on more powerful hardware than my little Z1 APU though.

KKamquat I'm sure some people are audiophile level extra about displays and would conside...

fiftydinar•8/18/24, 2:04 PM

I prefer BFI over frame interpolation personally

fiftydinar•8/18/24, 2:04 PM

not for long, because of eye strain

LLa Forge I think it's a certain sensitivity. I have audiophile gear in the low-mid range ...

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:04 PM

I mean I have HD650's for my headphones, I enjoy good quality audio, but after a certain point things just get ridiculous.

KKamquat With LS's LSFG x2 on my Go, the only time I've encountered artifacts is on stair...

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:05 PM

This is all subjective, ofc. but somewhat objective measurements put those treshholds i recited where they are. DF did those measurements. I'm happy this works for you, but i feel like we're wasting time one a combover when we could just be getting a hair-transplant.

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:05 PM

I'm not buying gold cables and $1000 headphones, or a 300hz gaming monitor when I don't run anything above 60 on my handheld or 120 on my desktop.

KKøleskab This is all subjective, ofc. but somewhat objective measurements put those tresh...

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:06 PM

Not on the Legion Go we aren't, unless AMFM2 gets enabled on Linux and in-games. And most games won't backwards add support even on Windows

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:06 PM

(assuming AFMF2 requires in-game support like DLSS does)

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

I haven't tried afmf2

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

Most games also start to lose simulation-speed at sub 30 internal FPS. so when people use LS frame gen to hit 30 or reach for 60, it often won't alleviate those problems either.

It sets a behavior and expectation that runs counter to proper use, which is why i don't think the tech belongs on handhelds. It's like drinking soda through your nose. It works, but not ideal.

antheas•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

You can grab a plane to turkey im fine with the combo er myself

antheas•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

And I want it

antheas•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

So I'll dm the ls guy

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:07 PM

Why would i go to Turkey?

KKøleskab Why would i go to Turkey?

antheas•8/18/24, 2:08 PM

:clueless:

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:08 PM

It works quite well to let me get higher display settings at 30 / 60 on many games on my go.

Aantheas :clueless:

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:09 PM

No no they renamed it. It's Türkiye now

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:09 PM

Which I really can't even fault. Köln gets called Cologne by Americans for some reason.

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:09 PM

I guess umlauts are hard.

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:09 PM

As long as i don't get "we already have frame gen" as a response once DLSS3 frame gen rolls around, i won't object.

KamquatOP•8/18/24, 2:11 PM

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-when-you-cant-stop-nuggies-nuggets-we-have-food-at-home-gif-15962430

Tenor

Køleskab•8/18/24, 2:11 PM

https://tenor.com/view/brocoli-healty-healty-eating-eating-force-feed-gif-20014053

Tenor

jonginator•8/18/24, 2:25 PM

Does anyone have an issue with crackling and popping audio on resume on their Ally X?

Mcromae•8/18/24, 3:06 PM

Hey there, is there any way of setting Bazzite up so that when I boot up my steam deck it returns to the previous session it was in? For example, if I was in desktop mode, it returns to desktop mode, if I was in gaming mode it returns to gaming mode?

Nobara does this, but also doesn't have a gnome version for SD and has some serious stability issues (I am a big fan of it otherwise tho)

Jjonginator Does anyone have an issue with crackling and popping audio on resume on their Al...

Mcromae•8/18/24, 3:06 PM

I sometimes have this issue on my SD OLED

Zelda•8/18/24, 3:23 PM

uhhh
how do i remove the bazzite startup/suspend animation from my gaming mode? after an update it just got forced upon me lol

Vladas•8/18/24, 3:29 PM

I have high cpu usage from /usr/bin/kwin_wayland after waking from sleep/suspend which drains battery fast
pc v3 minisforum

ZZelda uhhh how do i remove the bazzite startup/suspend animation from my gaming mode? ...

matt_schwartz•8/18/24, 3:31 PM

I think the portal (yafti) or a ujust command

AAru I don't mind the animations, so not a big deal to me

Zelda•8/18/24, 3:31 PM

i do mind it, i really want to use the steam deck oled's default anims and i don't really like those, i don't get why there isn't a switch somewhere

Mmatt_schwartz I think the portal (yafti) or a ujust command

Zelda•8/18/24, 3:32 PM

can't find it in yafti

matt_schwartz•8/18/24, 3:33 PM

It used to be there at least :clueless:

HikariKnight•8/18/24, 3:43 PM

cant you change it in the steam ui?

matt_schwartz•8/18/24, 3:47 PM

Oh does the bazzite one show up in there? Wasn’t sure where it gets placed relative to the other movies.

antheas•8/18/24, 3:50 PM

https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#new everyone vote for bazzite here

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matt_schwartz•8/18/24, 3:52 PM

Too late, I already voted for CryptoCurrency OS

antheas•8/18/24, 3:52 PM

i voted for bazzite again

HHikariKnight cant you change it in the steam ui?

Zelda•8/18/24, 4:03 PM

ignores the setting + still forces the suspend anim on me...

Chas_Hodges•8/18/24, 4:06 PM

Been a few days since I last asked - any ideas on this very particular problem I have?

ROG Ally X running Bazzite. All works great handheld and docked. UNLESS it's outputting to one particular Samsung TV in my house. I have a Panasonic screen, and an LG screen - both work over HDMI fine. As soon as it's plugged into the Samsung however I get random audio drops of around half a second. Sometimes it's every five minutes or so, sometimes it's multiple times in a minute. It happens consistently either when under load or when the Ally is relatively idle. No blips appear on gamescope / mangohud, and there are no visual or performance glitches. Just audio.

I don't believe this is a Bazzite issue - but is there anything I can do within the KDE desktop to change how HDMI is output to see if there's any way to troubleshoot this issue? I've ordered a new HDMI box and cable for the TV (as it uses a stupid breakout box for input), but in the mean time, anyone got any ideas on anything I can explore just in case?

ZZelda ignores the setting + still forces the suspend anim on me...

HikariKnight•8/18/24, 4:07 PM

hmm we dont do anything but copy the files to uioverrides, we do not set any settings

maybe try delete the files from uioverrides and make the folder immutable using

chattr

chattr

maybe that will work?

It's about double the latency of DLSS, but honestly, unless you're in a competitive shooter, it isn'

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