Hiob…..another quick question ……so the motor controller PCB also acts like a HID controller…right?

Hiob…..another quick question ……so the motor controller PCB also acts like a HID controller…right? In other words I don’t need to get something like the Bodnar board to connect buttons and analog pots …..it can be done via the VPforce board?
Ta

MMike T Hiob…..another quick question ……so the motor controller PCB also acts like a HID...

TheAmazinGreat•9/18/24, 12:20 AM

There are two JST-XH 3pin headers for analog pots and a 5pin JST-XH for the grip connection. All button inputs come through the grip. If you have a supported grip that has analog axes it will come through on the 5pin grip connector.

Kkaltokri If you are not patience enough it is still possible to go the DIY way. 😉

Hammer 1-1•9/18/24, 12:31 AM

oh Im patient, thats just...wow, DEMAND...for a hobbyist doing this job alone, thats a big order

Hammer 1-1•9/18/24, 12:32 AM

it reminds me of MFG Crosswinds when simundza started up his kits

Hammer 1-1•9/18/24, 12:33 AM

how long of a wait is that going to be? speculative...

FlatSpin•9/18/24, 2:16 AM

!status

FFlatSpin !status

VPforceBot•9/18/24, 2:16 AM

Hey @FlatSpin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0698 on 2024-09-17
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 207 days, median is 208 days, max is 437 days
673 Rhinos are shipped in total

TTheAmazinGreat There are two JST-XH 3pin headers for analog pots and a 5pin JST-XH for the grip...

Mike TOP•9/18/24, 7:33 AM

Thanks

Hiob•9/18/24, 7:55 AM

Nothing to add...

AArew Has anyone else had issues with the Rhino and the F-14B where the Rhino all of a...

Arew•9/19/24, 2:30 AM

Update on this, it's happening pretty regularly now, at least every other flight. Tonight it just went full back stick for no reason. I've reset Configurator midflight hoping that would fix it and it doesn't. Trim will work until I let go and it just goes back to full direction it's leaning.

Arew•9/19/24, 2:32 AM

Pretty frustrating because I don't fly very often anymore and over 50% of my flights are getting interupted by the motors just pulling left and now apparently back for seemingly no reason.

Arew•9/19/24, 2:42 AM

Pretty much every flight is on multiplayer server if that helps, but its almost always with someone else who has a Rhino and it's not happening to them.

Arew•9/19/24, 2:42 AM

Not really sure how to record data for this

Arew•9/19/24, 2:45 AM

In the joystick indicator, the blue circle will be full whatever direction it's leaning. Debug doesn't show anything.

AArew Pretty much every flight is on multiplayer server if that helps, but its almost ...

Number481•9/19/24, 3:10 AM

- Shouldn't be anything in TelemFFB that would do this, but verify it occurs without it running just to be sure
- Verify there's only one Spring effect in the Debug tab "Loaded effects" tab. I've never seen the DCS generated one be anything other than ID:5ID:5.

The only 2 things that can make the center offset change for the spring effect that DCS starts:
- The sim itself (trim for example)
- The "override trim" feature in the configurator effects tab

NNumber481 - Shouldn't be anything in TelemFFB that would do this, but verify it occurs wit...

Arew•9/19/24, 3:13 AM

Thank you, I will copy this and try to test it by this weekend and report back

AArew Thank you, I will copy this and try to test it by this weekend and report back

Number481•9/19/24, 3:24 AM

I’d also try to verify it is/isn’t the in game trim. Does the 14 have trim position indicators in the cockpit? Have you verified they are neutral (or where they should be) when this happens?

Arew•9/19/24, 3:29 AM

I'm actually not sure I guess, another thing to check out

Arew•9/19/24, 3:29 AM

Glad to have some troubleshooting direction

Hiob•9/19/24, 8:05 AM

How do you guys set up your Rhino for MSFS? I'm not talking about TelemFFB-Effects, but the Rhino-VP-Config and MSFS itself. I'm trying to figure out if it is actually better to just setup Spring/Friction/Inertia to feel "good" and then make it sticky. The MSFS-FFB seem to be really lackluster. Or am I missing an important setting inside the Sim? And how do you keep it with the special settings for the controls like "reactivity'" for example. I'm really a total noob when it comes to MSFS......

HHiob How do you guys set up your Rhino for MSFS? I'm not talking about TelemFFB-Effec...

walmis•9/19/24, 8:14 AM

TelemFFB fully simulates the missing dynamic spring forces in MSFS

Wwalmis TelemFFB fully simulates the missing dynamic spring forces in MSFS

Hiob•9/19/24, 8:16 AM

So what is the suggested settings for VP config then? Just leave it on my DCS-"defaults"?

walmis•9/19/24, 8:26 AM

Yeah, defaults should be fine. Since telemFFB takes control of the spring forces.

kaltokri•9/19/24, 8:34 AM

Did someone use already the software "Axis and Ohs" for MSFS together with a Rhino? Does it work together? It looks really good to me.
https://www.axisandohs.com/

HHammer 1-1 did i put that in correctly?

Alighierian•9/19/24, 9:23 AM

You might want to remove your email from the earlier message, unless you have no problems with it being public.

Kkaltokri Did someone use already the software "Axis and Ohs" for MSFS together with a Rhi...

Dracks•9/19/24, 12:07 PM

Yep, 0 issue with this software. Easy to configure. And it complements streamdeck environments well

smitty•9/19/24, 12:13 PM

I use SPAD which is similar. Just dont set up the joystick axes and itll be fine.

Ssmitty I use SPAD which is similar. Just dont set up the joystick axes and itll be fin...

kaltokri•9/19/24, 12:26 PM

But the axis configuration is the one thing I want to do.

But I'll take a look at SPAD, too. Thank you for the information.

smitty•9/19/24, 12:26 PM

telemffb has to handle the axes

smitty•9/19/24, 12:27 PM

otherwise trim/AP following wouldnt work

AAlighierian You might want to remove your email from the earlier message, unless you have no...

Hammer 1-1•9/19/24, 4:46 PM

thanks for reminding me, but seems to have disappeared on its own so thanks to whoever did that

diss•9/21/24, 3:49 AM

has there ever been issues shipping to an FPO address?

Llama_Thumper•9/21/24, 11:20 AM

!status

LLlama_Thumper !status

VPforceBot•9/21/24, 11:20 AM

Hey @Llama_Thumper,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0701 on 2024-09-20
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 207 days, median is 208 days, max is 437 days
675 Rhinos are shipped in total

Hiob•9/21/24, 11:30 AM

Guys, you can DM the VP bot with your status and info requests. Just saying.

j9murphy•9/21/24, 1:18 PM

is this normal for pedals? (spring effect is greyed out, it repeats ID:1 and ID:5) and constant is greyed out. No game is running just the configurator.

Jj9murphy is this normal for pedals? (spring effect is greyed out, it repeats ID:1 and ID...

Number481•9/21/24, 1:26 PM

With no game running you should only see effects 1-4 (whether they are started depends on your configurator settings). ID 5 and 6 were likely created by a game and never cleaned up (i.e. game crashed or didn't cleanup properly when it exited, etc..). You can re-plug the device and they should go away.

You can also use "Reset all effects" from the utilities menu in TelemFFB. Just make sure your doing it from the actual pedal instance window and not from the master/joystick window.

j9murphy•9/21/24, 1:41 PM

The reset all did it, thanks!

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:03 PM

I need help please. Just finished my build and tried plugging in and connecting it to the Configurator software. The stick is recognized and I can see the pot values change when I twist them, but I get no raw x or y values at all. The green lights are shining on the board, the motors, and I've verified correct 19.4VDC with my meter at the board supply. I tried doing the centering calibration but it still doesn't show any values for the axes. Bottom right corner says "Motor X: offline, Y: OK, and USB: connected". Rebooted PC and power cycled stick, reset config = same problem exists. WEbUSB tool recognizes the stick but doesn't require any firmware update and the axes indicators don't move. Triple-checked and everything is plugged into the board correctly. Here is a screenshot of my config page:

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:03 PM

DDARRYL I need help please. Just finished my build and tried plugging in and connecting ...

Number481•9/21/24, 7:18 PM

Disable the y axis so the system knows is a single motor setup.

NNumber481 Disable the y axis so the system knows is a single motor setup.

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:19 PM

It's not a single motor setup. It's a regular DIY Rhino with two motors.

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:20 PM

Unless you mean like just for troubleshooting?

DDARRYL It's not a single motor setup. It's a regular DIY Rhino with two motors.

Number481•9/21/24, 7:20 PM

sorry. For some reason I thought you were doing pedals

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:21 PM

Ah, no worries. Thanks anyway!

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:22 PM

Here's my "Device Messages" list from debug tab, if it helps:

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:22 PM

[12:50:07.751] * USB Connected
[12:50:07.921] Reset Motor:7
[12:50:07.921] Motor 0 active
[12:50:07.921] Motor 1 active
[12:50:07.921] Motor 0 timeout
[12:50:07.921] Motor 1 timeout
[12:50:07.921] Motor 0 active
[12:50:59.624] Config received
[12:51:25.215] Config received
[12:51:28.389] Config received
[12:51:28.393] Config written to flash
[13:18:39.957] Reset Motor:7

DDARRYL [12:50:07.751] * USB Connected [12:50:07.921] Reset Motor:7 [12:50:07.921] Motor...

Number481•9/21/24, 7:30 PM

Looking closer at your screenshot, it appears the issue is with the X motor connection. Double check the connection between the x motor and the control board?.

As a test I bet if you disabled the X axis, you would see data from the Y axis

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:32 PM

I will try that test. Then I will remove the base screws and check x (roll) motor connections. Back in a few.

NNumber481 Looking closer at your screenshot, it appears the issue is with the X motor conn...

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:38 PM

Disabling X and then calibrating gave some kind of values to the Y (instead of just blanks), but it was garbage jittering all over the place and didn't respond to axis motion at all. Will unscrew base bottom now.

NNumber481 Looking closer at your screenshot, it appears the issue is with the X motor conn...

DARRYL•9/21/24, 7:57 PM

The motor-end connections appear fine. Green light on both motors and board. Motor data connectors plugged into the correct board ports per the assembly instructions. I'm stumped. Back in 15.

Hiob…..another quick question ……so the motor controller PCB also acts like a HID controller…right?

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