Lol just saw a „review“ of the Moza (with the guy actually opening it)…. My second hand judgement…..

Lol just saw a „review“ of the Moza (with the guy actually opening it)…. My second hand judgement….. meh. Nothing to worry about for the Rhino. Looks dirt cheap on the inside and the gimbal is a joke. (It actually has one motor throwing around).
Maybe in practice that doesn’t matter all that much, but the absence of active cooling will become a problem. (Search for "Jabbers Moza")

Jon (Bounty_V)•9/26/24, 11:21 PM

I don't think Rhino will have anything to worry about for a long time. The main appeal of the Rhino, especially once more places have FFB, is the absurdly high quality open source software support to provide functionality and features and effects that will always be generations ahead of anything else

Jon (Bounty_V)•9/26/24, 11:23 PM

I hope to one day see a VPforce yoke, or perhaps even other things like throttle, belt system, and of course the upcoming pedal kit for Crosswinds. With the software available, anything that can natively access said software will be superior to everything else.

AndyHill•9/26/24, 11:36 PM

maybe it has superconducting motors or something and generates no heat

AndyHill•9/26/24, 11:36 PM

would be interesting to see someone actually put the moza through some real stress

TonyM•9/27/24, 12:16 AM

To stay at the top, a release of the MFG Crosswind pedal kit would certainly help

(but quality has to be the 1st priority of course! )

TTonyM To stay at the top, a release of the MFG Crosswind pedal kit would certainly hel...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•9/27/24, 5:08 AM

There is Hiobs awesome MFG Project. And @kaltokri offering it as a Kit soon. Parts printed by me

VPforceBot•9/27/24, 5:44 AM

:package:

RHINO #0706 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/27/24, 5:44 AM

:package:

RHINO #0709 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/27/24, 5:44 AM

:package:

RHINO #0707 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/27/24, 5:44 AM

:package:

RHINO #0708 Has Shipped!

eilerj2•9/27/24, 1:52 PM

Is there anywhere that explains the differences between the DIY FFB motor options?

Eeilerj2 Is there anywhere that explains the differences between the DIY FFB motor option...

HiobOP•9/27/24, 2:10 PM

There is really only two options that are relevant. The "standard" option for the regular (DIY)-Rhino are the 57BLF03. If you want a significant upgrade in max. force over them, you want the 86BLF04. However they don't fit the regular Rhino or DIY-Kits. There are DIY plans that will fit the bigger motors (they are physically much bigger). Makes it all more expensice though.

eilerj2•9/27/24, 2:32 PM

Awesome, thank you. Do you know if it is possible to use Simhub or SimTools instead of the VPForce Configurator?

Eeilerj2 Awesome, thank you. Do you know if it is possible to use Simhub or SimTools inst...

Col. Sanders•9/27/24, 2:42 PM

Why would you want too? And I believe the answer is no, not without serious modding

Whiskey.75•9/27/24, 2:43 PM

Thanks for making the VKB adapter. Works great!

Eeilerj2 Is there anywhere that explains the differences between the DIY FFB motor option...

TheAmazinGreat•9/27/24, 3:14 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986485131906809866

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986485401332105257

HHiob Lol just saw a „review“ of the Moza (with the guy actually opening it)…. My seco...

Tøby | Tobias•9/27/24, 3:23 PM

Where?

TTøby | Tobias Where? 😊

HiobOP•9/27/24, 3:24 PM

search for jabbers moza on youtube

HiobOP•9/27/24, 3:26 PM

It‘s a decent review (for someone that isn’t too deep in the matter imho). The „stress test“ isn‘t really stressing anything though

Tøby | Tobias•9/27/24, 5:25 PM

Thanks

DARRYL•9/27/24, 7:50 PM

Jabbers definitely makes quality content, well worth a sub. He had a hell of a time getting the MOZA AB9 base to function early on, and gave them lots of valuable feedback over several iterations. Yet no punches were pulled in his public reporting of many uncomfortable realities either. OTOH, MOZA themselves are terrible at community management / communications. That's why I ended up building a Rhino instead of buying a MOZA, actually. The owner and the community here are so much better, far more helpful and trustworthy.

CCol. Sanders Why would you want too? And I believe the answer is no, not without serious modd...

eilerj2•9/27/24, 10:12 PM

Simhub or Simtools would provide a lot more flexibility if you wanted to code your own equations to control the feedback.

Eeilerj2 Simhub or Simtools would provide a lot more flexibility if you wanted to code yo...

Col. Sanders•9/27/24, 10:14 PM

Seems like if you really want that kind of control, you could speak to the dev team here for Telemffb And see if you can help or get access. Otherwise just build your own system from scratch.

eilerj2•9/27/24, 10:16 PM

Understood. Thank you.

asut•9/28/24, 5:55 AM

Does anyone know if the Virpil 10cm extender is suitable with Rhino?

https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-flightstick-extension.html

VPC Flightstick Extension

Features

★ Available in 50mm/75mm/100mm
★ Increased Precision and Smoother Handling
★ Allows for Offset Grip Rotation - Perfect for Center Mounted Setups
★ Includes Cable Extensions
★ Metal Construction

Aasut Does anyone know if the Virpil 10cm extender is suitable with Rhino? https://v...

Dracks•9/28/24, 6:32 AM

All good. I have the 10 (and others). Work perfectly

DDracks All good. I have the 10 (and others). Work perfectly

asut•9/28/24, 6:32 AM

Thank you!

Dracks•9/28/24, 6:32 AM

Aasut Thank you!

Dracks•9/28/24, 6:34 AM

On the other hand, when you go to screw it onto the Rhino...go very quietly otherwise you risk damaging the Rhino's screw thread (3d printing is therefore more fragile).

DDracks On the other hand, when you go to screw it onto the Rhino...go very quietly othe...

asut•9/28/24, 6:35 AM

Roger that

DDracks On the other hand, when you go to screw it onto the Rhino...go very quietly othe...

kaltokri•9/28/24, 8:30 AM

The "Machined Aluminum Grip Mount Upgrade for Rhino" is really worth the price in my opinion. I use the PA12 printed version at the moment. It is ok as long as you are carefully and don't change the grip/extension often. But I've one aluminum here and will change it next time I change something at my rhino or simpit.

Kkaltokri The "Machined Aluminum Grip Mount Upgrade for Rhino" is really worth the price i...

Dracks•9/28/24, 9:48 AM

Yeah you're right. Unfortunately I didn't know this when I placed the initial order. So I took the plans supplied by Walmis and printed them out more solidly.
Anyway, if you don't change your grips every day, he won't have any problems

Aasut Does anyone know if the Virpil 10cm extender is suitable with Rhino? https://v...

LeLv30_Superbus•9/28/24, 2:04 PM

It's the one I use with their B8-style grip. No complaints.

TTheAmazinGreat https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/965234441511383083/1271888053580...

CaiJ•9/28/24, 5:03 PM

Ok what do if telemFFB isn’t recognizing any inputs

Eeilerj2 Awesome, thank you. Do you know if it is possible to use Simhub or SimTools inst...

HiobOP•9/28/24, 5:11 PM

No, the motors are tuned to the VP software afaik.

eilerj2•9/28/24, 8:10 PM

Thank you

FlyingDutchie320•9/29/24, 1:23 PM

If 2 diy kits are ordered for a total of 4motors, can 2motors be used for a Collective and Rudder application with the same Vpforce software? Is this supported? So bassicaly a Joystick with 2 motors, and collective and rudders with one motor each? Thanks

smitty•9/29/24, 1:55 PM

no the rudder and collective will need separate boards

smitty•9/29/24, 1:57 PM

then you can put the 3 boards in like this into telemffb

FlyingDutchie320•9/29/24, 2:15 PM

Thanks for your reply!, So I will need 3 boards and 4motors? Thanks

smitty•9/29/24, 2:16 PM

yep thatll do it!

DARRYL•9/30/24, 1:51 AM

My condolences to Sshadow's friends and family. He was pretty well known in the IL2 MP community for many years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOZmOYVTps

YouTubeilikevideogames

=TBAS=Sshadow Flies West

It is with a heavy heart that I write this, but virtual comrade and long-time friend of the IL-2 community =TBAS=Sshadow14 very sadly passed away this week in hospital.

We are very lucky that we don't have to deal with lost friends as real life fighter pilots did, but when they do come they hit very hard. He leaves a void that will always be pr...

Reed•9/30/24, 4:32 AM

Pulling the trigger on a bambulab x1c with ams. Anyone using one or have a particular printer they like. Needing covered and filtered case for asa and abs.

VPforceBot•9/30/24, 6:40 AM

:package:

RHINO #0711 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/30/24, 6:40 AM

:package:

RHINO #0710 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/30/24, 10:02 AM

:package:

RHINO #0713 Has Shipped!

RReed Pulling the trigger on a bambulab x1c with ams. Anyone using one or have a parti...

Arno•9/30/24, 12:03 PM

I have the P1S (with the casing) and I have been pretty happy with it. Especially how compared to my previous ender it just delivers without me constantly calibrating stuff. The P1S does have a slow processor and camera, but I got the hardened nozzle and extruder anyway, so it is not that different in performance any more from the x1c

Sudeebare•9/30/24, 1:54 PM

Interesting report on Moza Discord about VPforce VKB adapter cracking when used with Moza AB9 base.

SSudeebare Interesting report on Moza Discord about VPforce VKB adapter cracking when used ...

Munchie•9/30/24, 2:05 PM

This was me, I’d be interested in seeing the 3D print file so I could make one out of alumni via cnc machine

Munchie•9/30/24, 2:05 PM

Lol just saw a „review“ of the Moza (with the guy actually opening it)…. My second hand judgement…..

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